<div dir="ltr">From an 'information about aerial tramways" standpoint, I believe that it would be preferable to label the drive, midstation, and return terminals as such. While they are often for vertical-oriented transport, aerialways are sometimes used for horizontal transport, e.g. <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46351339#map=18/44.53063/-72.78456&layers=D">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46351339#map=18/44.53063/-72.78456&layers=D</a><div>terminal=drive</div><div>terminal=return</div><div>terminal=mid<br><div><br></div><div>It is worth noting that ski lifts are often described as "top-drive" or "bottom-drive" (i.e. the powered bullwheel is at the top in some cases and at the bottom in others), but it doesn't take a ton of tramway knowledge to figure out which is which (drive infrastructure is usually pretty obvious).</div><div><br></div><div>If the concern is for routing, that's a slightly bigger challenge—some tramways load only at one end, some load at both (e.g. the gondola linked above), others load primarily at one end with limited loading at the other in various special conditions, sometimes event-specific, and often with different capacities (many, if not most, ski lifts have higher uphill than downhill capacities). one_way=* seems to be a possible solution, but I don't know how you'd tag "one_way=yes; except when hosting a wedding at the top, or for employees to get down at the end of the shift"</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:04 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>1) is bottom station always in valley?<br></div><div>(This should be fixable)<br></div><div><br></div><div>2) is there case of 2 and more middle<br></div><div>stations?<br></div><div><br></div><div>3) is there case of one station being both<br></div><div>top and bottom station at once?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Also, it uses single known tag, not<br></div><div>new discussion purpose ones.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Though, yes processing would be<br></div><div>much more complicated.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would consider also tagging elevation<br></div><div>(ele tag from what I remember).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>12 Aug 2020, 16:31 by <a href="mailto:email@daniel-korn.de" target="_blank">email@daniel-korn.de</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div>Am 12.08.2020 um 16:28 schrieb Niels Elgaard Larsen:<br></div><blockquote><div>dktue:<br></div><blockquote><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I was wondering why there's no way to distinguish valley and upper stations of<br></div><div>aerialways in OpenStreetMap.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Usually an aerialway consists of<br></div><div><br></div><div> * one valley station<br></div><div> * zero or more mid stations<br></div><div> * one upper station (or "mountain station")<br></div><div><br></div><div>What do you think you tagging this information with<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You could tag the aerialway with incline=up/down<br></div><blockquote><div> station=valley_station/mid_station/upper_station<br></div><div><br></div><div>?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers<br></div><div>dktue<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aerialway=station" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aerialway=station</a><br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div>That's true but I think it would be very hard for consumers to extract this information (think of an overpass-query to find all mid stations). Would there be any advantage in following your suggestions instead of explicit tagging?<br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Tagging mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote> </div>
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