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<tt>For me both schemes would be fine. I have no problem using
"lower", "upper" and "mid" even if the upper station is lower than
some mid stations. The definition from the wiki will then still
explain how to tag it and it's a rare case where the mapper
probably will look for the definition in the wiki. And your
improvement regarding the defition itself is absolutely correct.
There's no need to state the fact that it's the opposite end. So
I'll give it a new try:<br>
<br>
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<tt><tt>Definition:<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=lower<br>
<br>
for the station at the end of the aerialway with the lower
altitude,<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=upper<br>
<br>
for the station at the end of the aerialway with the higher
altitude,<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=mid<br>
<br>
for any station not being at the end of and aerialway.<br>
<br>
<br>
Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
dktue</tt><br>
<br>
</tt><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.08.2020 um 13:57 schrieb Colin
Smale:<br>
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<p>Yes, I object to the specific values, as I (and others) said
earlier. The use of "base" and "head" is not intuitive and will
lead to confusion and errors amongst non-fluent English
speakers. More basic words like "top" and "bottom", or maybe
"upper" and "lower", are preferable.</p>
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<p>You can/should remove the word "opposite" from the definition;
this will make it completely independent of the other
definitions.</p>
<p>On 2020-08-15 13:44, dktue wrote:</p>
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unambiguous, the definition would then be:<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=base<br>
<br>
for the station at an end of the aerialway with the lower
altitude,<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=head<br>
<br>
for the station at the opposite end of the aerialway (hence
with a higher altitude) and<br>
<br>
aerialway:station=mid<br>
<br>
for any station not being at the end of and aerialway
regardless of the altitude.<br>
<br>
<br>
Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
dktue<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.08.2020 um 13:37 schrieb <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol"
moz-do-not-send="true">Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol</a>:</div>
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<p><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hi,</span><br>
<br>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">it
was mentioned, we have many aerialways in Tyrol and there
are really cases where the mid station is the one with the
highest altitude.</span><br>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">I
found an example ("Schindlergratbahn", base 2035 m, mid
2643 m , head 2579 m, see link ). So i think, the second
scheme with base, mid, head could</span><br>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">be
the better scheme.</span><br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23103020"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: #0000ff;
font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"><u>https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23103020</u></span></a><span
style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"> </span><br>
<br>
<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Werner</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">"Yves" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ycai@mailbox.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><ycai@mailbox.org></a>
schrieb am 14.08.2020 18:07:53:<br>
<br>
> Von: "Yves" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ycai@mailbox.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><ycai@mailbox.org></a></span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> An: "Tag
discussion, strategy and related tools" <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a>,
"Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging" <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a></span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Kopie: "Tagging" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a></span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Datum: 14.08.2020
18:09</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Betreff: Re:
[Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> <br>
> I'm not a natural speaker, head like in where the
aerialway is heading.<br>
> I propose the second scheme because of the
duplicate meaning with <br>
> ele in the definition, and because the aim of an
aerialway could be <br>
> lower than mid. <br>
> Yves <br>
</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Le 14 août 2020
17:32:08 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a>
a écrit :</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> I strongly prefer
up/top over head.</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> <br>
> At least for me (not representative,</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> not a native
speaker), head = up</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> is not clear.</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> <br>
> 14 Aug 2020, 17:05 by <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:email@daniel-korn.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">email@daniel-korn.de</a>:</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Am 14.08.2020 um
16:37 schrieb yvecai:</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> <br>
> I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a
definition:</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> bottom: the end
station with the lower altitude</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> up: the end station
with the higher altitude</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> mid: any station,
not being a base or a head station, irrespective <br>
> of the altitude</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Or, alternatively
one that does not compete with the ele tag and <br>
> carry a destination meaning (my preference):</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> base: the 'valley'
station, usually with the lower altitude</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> head: the
'mountain' or 'top' station, usually with the higher
altitude</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> mid: any station,
not being a base or a head station.</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> <br>
> aewrialway:station has my preference</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> Yves</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style="font-size: small;">> I like both. Any
other people here with a peference for one of Yves'
schemes?<br>
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