<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Volker,</div><div><br></div><div>I tried to clarify the German bit on the cyclestreet page. It wasn't clear enough that the German section on cyclestreet had as point to say: "in Germany cyclestreet=* does not exist, they have bicycle_road instead". These two concepts maybe could have had the same tag from the start with just slightly different implications. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op di 25 aug. 2020 om 12:15 schreef Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">voschix@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div>I have come across a new (to me) street sign In Italy:</div><div>
<a href="https://italy-cycling-guide.info/tips-advice/riding-in-italy/" target="_blank">https://italy-cycling-guide.info/tips-advice/riding-in-italy/</a>
</div><div>The road is a one-lane residential road on which bicycles and pedestrians can circulate. <br></div><div>I don't know the legal status, however (I am inquiring).</div><div><br></div><div>In that contest I have noticed that we have two wiki pages defining two tags, which seem to be describing nearly the same concept:</div><div>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle_road" target="_blank">bicycle_road</a> created
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:bicycle_road&oldid=512933" title="Key:bicycle road" target="_blank">14:54, 7 August 2010</a>
</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:cyclestreet" target="_blank">cyclestreet</a> created
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:cyclestreet&oldid=1607471" title="Key:cyclestreet" target="_blank">09:58, 9 May 2018</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>The main difference, as I understand it, is that the bicycle road is for bicycles only, unless there are additional signs, whereas<br></div><div>on a cycle street
"cars are also allowed. However, this car use is limited by the character and layout of the cyclestreet"</div><div><br></div><div>To make the confusion perfect, both wiki pages use the same (German) road sign as illustration for the situation in Germany.<br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_244_-_Beginn_der_Fahrradstra%C3%9Fe,_StVO_1997.svg" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_244_-_Beginn_der_Fahrradstra%C3%9Fe,_StVO_1997.svg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Taginfo:</div><div>
<tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a>bicycle_road</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle_road%3Dyes" title="Tag:bicycle road=yes" target="_blank">yes</a></tt><tt> 7906</tt></div><div><tt>
<tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a>cyclestreet</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cyclestreet%3Dyes" title="Tag:cyclestreet=yes" target="_blank">yes</a></tt> 4076<br></tt></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><tt><br></tt></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><tt><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Volker </span><br></tt></span></div><div><tt><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Padova, Italy</span><br></tt></div><div><tt><br></tt></div><div><tt><br></tt></div><div><tt></tt><br><tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"></tt>
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