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<div>In that case you want to tag what is signed,<br></div><div>not actual electricity source.<br></div><div><br></div><div>marked_as_green_energy=*<br></div><div><br></div><div>marked_as_renewable_energy=*<br></div><div><br></div><div>is verifiable and does not require<br></div><div>- impossible for mapper - verification<br></div><div>of an actual energy source</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>29 wrz 2020, 22:28 od lrichert@posteo.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>Hi Colin, <br></p><p>I agree that while a few suppliers source all of their
electricity from renewable sources, most simply add a surcharge
which is used to fund the growth of renewable energy
infrastructure and price the electricity as if it were coming from
solely renewable energy sources. I'm working on an article for
Wikipedia that will explain green pricing tariffs in detail as
this seems to be lacking in English. <br></p><p>Arguing if the definiton of 'green electricity' is actually
'green' is not the point, this is already a term that is
explicitly advertised at the charging stations or camp sites (see
images in proposal) and also something that consumers look for as
they want to fund renewable energies in the hope that all grid
energy will be completely 'renewable' in future. While this
obviously won't be for at least 15-50 years depending on who you
ask, I think it is a worthwhile attribute to map as some people
are conscious of what types of electricity generation they wish to
support. <br></p><p>Best, Lukas<br></p><p><br></p><div class="">On 29/09/2020 16:56, Colin Smale wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><p>Hi Lukas,<br></p><p>You do realise that all electricity is the same, irrespective
of how it is generated? The "greenness" or otherwise is not
determined by the connection, but by the subscription/contract
that the consumer has with their supplier.<br></p><p>UNLESS they have a standalone generating capability, like PV or
wind turbine that is not connected to the grid.<br></p><p>On 2020-09-29 16:00, Lukas Richert wrote:<br></p><blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left:
#1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0" type="cite"><p>Hi,<br></p><p>I'd like to propose a new tag that defines the source of
publicly available electricity: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity:source">electricity:source</a><br></p><p>This could be used as an additional information tag on
amenities that provide electricity for public consumption,
such as bike/car charging stations or camp sites. Many
charging stations have nearby solar or use green pricing
tariffs. I've also seen camp sites and harbours advertise
this.<br></p><p>This topic came up as a group wanted to plan a bike tour
using e-bikes but only with renewable energy. I noticed that
there appears to be no easy way to filter for the source of
the electricity provided.<br></p><p>Potential discussion: It's not quite clear to me whether
power_supply or electricity is preferred for this type of
application. It might also be interesting for consumers to see
which buildings are powered by green electricity if this is
something a store or similar advertises. So it may be worth
expanding the proposal to electricity used by the public even
if not directly available (e.g. lighting in a store).<br></p><p>Best regards,<br></p><div>Lukas<br></div><div> <br></div><div style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
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