<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:31, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>More than good enough for me. It's verifiable, so ought to be good enough for</div><div>anybody else. I'm interested in cheap test equipment, are the Avos old or</div><div>new? :)<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>New when they're in season, but I don't think they deliver, & it's going to be a bit of an issue you coming to pick them up! :-) <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> For the right price on one of these it might be worth it.</div><div><a href="https://www.avo.co.nz/products/multifunction-installation-testers">https://www.avo.co.nz/products/multifunction-installation-testers</a></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div>The fact that a shop is selling something produced on a farm doesn't make it a farm shop (otherwise a greengrocer would be<div> a farm shop). A farm shop is on the grounds where the produce is grown. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I suppose we could define it a bit closer in that a greengrocer sells produce from multiple sources / suppliers, whereas a farm=shop only sells produce produced on that farm? <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's how I understand it, going by the places around here that call themselves</div><div>farm shops. They're on farm grounds selling their own products.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div><br></div><div>But Cliff mentioned</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:46, Clifford Snow <<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfarm" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfarm</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><div>
Which says: "A shop that sells regional, seasonal, freshly harvested goods. It could
be also used for a roadside produce stand. <b>Similar inner-city farm shops
also exist that specialize in selling products direct from
(local/regional) farms.</b>"<b><br></b></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oh dear. That complicates matters. I don't know if the term is used in that</div><div>way in the UK. I don't recall seeing it used in that way around here.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><b></b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>We do actually buy things from the place that has the Cow poo, Eggs & Tomatoes sign up,</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All the ingredients needed for a perfect omelette.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> & have spoken to them a few times. All their produce comes from their son's farm ~40k west of here. So are they a shop=farm?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would say not, by my understanding of the term. But I can't guarantee</div><div>my understanding matches general UK usage. However, if we count that</div><div>as a farm shop then the term essentially becomes an alias of greengrocer.</div><div>A greengrocer with a single supplier, but still a greengrocer. An</div><div>intermediary between the customer and the farmer.<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> It's stretching things if the shop is attached to a private house and the produce is grown in the garden, </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So what do we call it if we have a bumper crop of mangoes & decide to put a table out the front & sell them for $1 each? <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Unless you do it regularly and people come to rely on you for their supply</div><div>of mangoes, it's not worth mapping, is it?<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div>