<div dir="ltr">Here in Europe that situation starts to be assumed by big cities who love bicycles. It is a new regulation you can find in Paris or Barcelona. <br>Now we can ride our bikes in oneways streets as oneway:bicycle=no and also this possibility of turn in red traffic lights. Also these days we start to find some crossings where we can go straight in bicycle (as the right case)<br><div>Red turn is from English and I suspect is from someone who is not English native like me. I understand "Giro rojo" de Giro en rojo" (turn right at red?). I think it is not bad for a osm tag.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.elperiodico.cat/ca/societat/20150719/els-ciclistes-proposen-imitar-paris-i-permetre-a-les-bicis-saltar-se-el-vermell-4369313">https://www.elperiodico.cat/ca/societat/20150719/els-ciclistes-proposen-imitar-paris-i-permetre-a-les-bicis-saltar-se-el-vermell-4369313</a><br><br></div><div>Ara més que mai salut i mapes<br>More than ever Health and maps<br></div><div>yopaseopor<br></div><br><br></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
<tr>
<td style="width:55px;padding-top:18px"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;"></a></td>
<td style="width:470px;padding-top:17px;color:#41424e;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Libre de virus. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank" style="color:#4453ea">www.avast.com</a> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:15 PM Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In North America (since we hate pedestrians) usually it is legal to turn right at a red light (we drive on the right side of the road, so a right turn only involves crossing into one lane).<br><br>At some intersections where there are many pedestrians, there are signs that say "no turn on red", or sometimes "no turn on red except bicycles".<br><br>Should this be mapped as a Relation:restriction? For example, a relation with "restriction=no_turn_on_red" + "except=bicycle"?<br><br>Alternatively, I see there is a tag used in Europe in the form "red_turn:right:bicycle=yes" + "red_turn:right=no" - this would mean that bicycles may turn red at a traffic signal but other vehicles may not turn. This is documented at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Red_turn" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Red_turn</a><br><br>That tag is also used when right turns are allowed, e.g. "red_turn:left=yes", when this would not always be expected. It's most often used in Dresden.<br><br>Oddly, it is proposed on the page that you could also use "red_turn:straight:bicycle=yes" to say that "bicycles are allowed to go straight at this traffic light when it is red", but this sounds very strange to me.<br><br>I wonder if "red turn" is a translation from German or another language?<br><br>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
Tagging mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
</blockquote></div>