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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:61013f6f-3cf6-3014-6ee5-09ed33135e07@bavarianmallet.de">
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cite="mid:b6c01303-ac64-a670-6918-bdc4e1744c57@gmx.de">
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cite="mid:CALQ-OR7XxsSTA=xwDboDDcWu1u-YNihhDin-0ZqiGXK_7COqmQ@mail.gmail.com">This
recent wiki change by <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Emvee"
class="gmail-mw-userlink" title="User:Emvee"
moz-do-not-send="true">Emvee</a> is in my view not helpful,
or even misleading, as it does discourage a wide-spread
tagging practice (if we like this or not is a different
question, but it's established tagging, and the wiki is
supposed to describe the establsihed methods of tagging)</blockquote>
<p>The change describes what a router does with bicycle=no on a
node, see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/abrensch/brouter/issues/265"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/abrensch/brouter/issues/265</a></p>
<p>Already discussed elsewhere but having routers ignore
bicycle=no in combination with highway=crossing means that it
is more or less useless as routers are they main data
consumers while at the same time crossing data is far from
being complete.<br>
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<p>My take is that it is not a wide-spread tagging practice and
it does not add new information as weather it is a pedestrian
issue can be deduced from the connecting ways.<br>
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We still have the valid mapping practice, that sideways are mapped
with tags at the highway=<street> with no seperately mapped
ways.<br>
Therefor we still have highway=crossing nodes _without_ a crossing
way.<br>
Some of these still have no bicycle crossing allowed.<br>
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How can/should a mapper map this 'new' information now? </blockquote>
<p>Discussed also elsewhere in this thread, but an option is just to
retrain from adding bicycle=no/dismount as it is problematic for
routing while it does not add value, for these highway=crossing
nodes _without_ a crossing way routers will not <span
class="emphasis">treat</span> them different if there is
bicycle=no/yes/dismount or whatever</p>
<p>If in a later stage the crossing way is added, that crossing way
will have the correct access rights.</p>
<p>Like written, I do not see a need but maybe, like elsewhere
proposed, a new tag should be used instead.<br>
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