<div dir="auto"><div>See "Parking-Protected Bike Lanes | The City of Portland, Oregon": <a href="https://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/77882">https://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/77882</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">在 2020年10月27日週二 01:45,Supaplex <<a href="mailto:supaplex@riseup.net">supaplex@riseup.net</a>> 寫道:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Do you have an example picture/mapillary or similar of such a
street? You call this case yourself "parking lane" and the way you
describe it, it sounds like a typical case for parking:lane:* =
parallel/diagonal/perpendicular, but not for
parking:lane:*/parking=street_side. "street_side" is intended for
cases where the parking spaces are structurally (especially
structured by curbs) located on one side of the carriageway. (That
means, if - hypothetically - no vehicles were parked there, you
could still not drive there because curb extensions or street
furniture would block a continuous drive.)</p>
<p>A cycleway located behind this parking area is no longer part of
the roadway and would therefore not be "lane" but "track". But
maybe I misinterpreted the case you meant?<br>
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<div>Am 26.10.20 um 15:49 schrieb Paul
Johnson:<br>
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<pre>On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 6:40 AM Supaplex <a href="mailto:supaplex@riseup.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><supaplex@riseup.net></a> wrote:
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<pre>Hey all,
I would like to invite you to discuss a proposal for "parking =
street_side" for areas suitable or designated for parking, which are
directly adjacent to the carriageway of a road and can be reached directly
from the roadway without having to use an access way:
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking%3Dstreet_side" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking%3Dstreet_side</a>
The proposed tagging can be used on separate parking areas as well as with
the parking:lane-scheme. It aims not only to differentiate such
street-accompanying parking areas from others, especially
"parking=surface", but also addresses a contradiction in the current use of
the amenity=parking and parking:lane-scheme, which I would like to mention
briefly at this point: the use of "layby"/"lay_by".
The value "layby" was originally intended for forms of resting places, as
they seem to be especially common in rural areas of Great Britain, Ireland
or the US: short-stop rest-areas along through-traffic roads intended for
breaks during a car-trip (see Wikipedia for a definition:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_area#Lay-bys" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_area#Lay-bys</a>). On areas with
"amenity=parking" this key is also used in this sense (and mostly in Great
Britain).
Within the parking:lane-schema, however, the value "lay_by" (written with
an underscore) has gained acceptance. According to the Wiki, this value is
defined identically to the layby's mentioned above. Its actual use,
however, differs from this and includes mainly street-side parking, as we
address them in our proposal.
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<pre>How does this work out when the parking lane is not the curb lane? This
arrangement is increasingly common in North America, where the parking
isn't at the side of the road, one or more bicycle lanes are.
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