<div dir="ltr"><div>I am confused on what the tag electricity= is intended for.</div><div><br></div><div>You say in the first of the two proposals:</div><div>"
The parent key <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:electricity" title="Key:electricity">electricity</a>
would be used to tag the availabilty and source of electricity, i.e.
whether a building or amenity has electricity. The availability of this
electricity to the public, either for free or for a fee, would be
determined by the typical <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access" title="Key:access">access</a> and <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee" title="Key:fee">fee</a> tags."</div><div><br></div><div>So let's go to the practical side:</div><div>My home is an average single family house in an average city in an average country in Europe.</div><div>As for 99.9% of the buildings in this country it is connected to the (national) electricity grid, hence electricity=grid.</div><div>But I do not sell electricity to the public, and I do not offer a free electricity supply to the public, hence it would be electricity:access=private<br></div><div>So we will start a major campaign to add the two tags to 99.9% of the buildings in my country? This cannot be done automatically, as there are the odd (for the time being) buildings that are autonomous with, for example, solar + battery.and other odd arrangements.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am sure that you have thought of that and the intention is to put the electricity= tag only on some categories of buildings in those areas of the world where it is normal to be connected to the grid, but which?</div><div><br></div><div>Going on from there, what about other services like drinking water, sewage, surface water drainage, television antennas, Internet connection, postal delivery services, garbage collection, and so on?</div><div><br></div><div>I have to confess, I only have questions, but no answers.</div><div><br></div><div>Volker<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 13:47, Lukas Richert <<a href="mailto:lrichert@posteo.de">lrichert@posteo.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Since a lot of people apparently didnt see the RFC the first
time, I'll go back to RFC status for now. (I thought the threads
were sorted by subject title of the email and didnt check online
if it was actually visible. )</p>
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<p>The original message: <br>
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<p>Hello all,
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<br>
after the comments on the confusing nature of the word 'source' in
my original proposal of 'electricity:source', I have now changed
the name to 'electricity:origin' as suggested on the discussion
page. Furthermore, I would like to revive and extend the proposal
of the key 'electricity' as this previously conflicted with parts
of the electricity:source proposal and was not consistent.
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Both proposal pages:
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[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity</a>
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[2] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/electricity:source" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/electricity:source</a>
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The idea now is to allow for the tagging of buildings or amenities
that have electricity. The rationale is described in more detail
at [1]. Tags such as access, fee, schedule and origin can then
narrow down the availability to the public and the question of
financial or direct origin of the electricity.
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This is distinct from the drafted tag power_supply as it is used
to describe the type of sockets used at a specific outlet. The
values for that tag are still currently under discussion.
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I would also not tag this as a subset of power=* as this maps the
facilities and features that relate to the generation and
distribution of electrical power and should not be used to map the
consumers of electricity.<br>
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I am eager to hear the feedback to the revised proposals!
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<p>Also, perhaps relevant: both the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_supply" target="_blank">power_supply</a>
and <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket" target="_blank">socket</a>
keys describe the same feature. power_supply so far has
occasionally been used in the manner that electricity proposes to
be. Unfortunately, the proposal for power_supply is relatively
inconsistent. I think the socket:* tag is better thought out and
also currently more used. I would be in favor of deprecating
power_supply and separating the two meanings it currently has into
electricity=* and socket:*=#.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Lukas</p>
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