<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the discussion. Lately the open questions center on formulating tags for pickup/dropoff points or areas as opposed to roads. Some of the latest:</div><div>- How should a designated curb location be indicated for rideshare access? How might this apply to a point or area (eg <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/366754575#map=19/-33.93330/151.18194&layers=N">parking lot</a>)?</div><div>- How might designations for specific companies be indicated? (eg Uber pickup location differing from Lyft pickup location)</div><div></div><div>- How might access for pickup only, dropoff only, or both be indicated? Do existing access values satisfy these? Is a tag indicating pickup/dropoff zone/point needed?</div><div>- How would an exclusive road for rideshare be tagged, "rideshare=yes"+"access=no" or "rideshare=designated"+"access=no"?</div><div>- Is there a more common term for uber/grab/lyft/yandex/etc than "rideshare"?</div><div><br></div><div>Please add to this summary or join in. Open to starting the voting process ~Nov 12, we could push back again if this begs further discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Clare</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:38 PM Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I wouldn't do that because then logically you have two features, but in this case they are one in the same, it's a rideshare pickup parking lot, as opposed to a on-street section designated for rideshare pickup/dropoff.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 09:38, Simon Poole <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>While I would try to avoid it, you can naturally simply duplicate
the geometry (and you don't even need to duplicate the nodes to do
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<p>We don't seem to have a tagging currently for
dedicated pickup locations in this kind of
context, bus stops etc are naturally
taggable), if considered really useful I don't
see why we couldn't introduce a
amenity=...pickup... tag.</p>
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<div>But if such a dedicated pickup location is a
carpark then it needs amenity=parking, so it can't
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<div>A pickup point will be a node within a car park area.</div>
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<div>Its is already common to add amenity=bicycle_parking
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<div>Why would it be a node within a car park? For example <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/366754575" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/366754575</a> is
the designated airport Uber, etc. pickup location, not
some point inside the car park, but the whole car park
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