<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Regarding the private_hire, I’m not so sure. We indeed you English spelling for tags (colour, neighbourhood), and that’s okay since it’s consistent. But when instead of just spelling we use a UK-specific legal term, it might be not understood. For example, see village_green.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My point is that anywhere except UK, “ride-sharing” is the term for Uber, Lyft, Bolt, and such. While researching, I’ve found road signs and articles using “Ride Share” or “ride-sharing” in the US, Australia, and Russia.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Even in UK, "ride-sharing" is a common term when addressing these companies, e.g. on the BBC and Evening Standard websites. It can be found much more often than "private hire”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On the other hand, in London drivers of these cars need to have “private hire” licenses. We’re discussing access restriction, and these are for cars/drivers, not for companies. In London specifically this term might be more correct. In any other place the probability of finding a “ride share vehicles” restriction is higher than for “private hire vehicles”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So when I see rideshare=designated, as a person living outside England, I can immediately understand what that means. For private_hire I would need to refer to wikipedia or google the term. Wikipedia, of course, uses “Ride-sharing” for these companies as well, and not once mentions “private hire” in the article.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridesharing_company" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridesharing_company</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My vote is for “rideshare”, although I’m not invested in any of the terms, provided we agree on something and then can map access restrictions that have been on the ground for years.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ilya</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Oct 2020, at 20:57, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" class="">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">It's almost never standard to use access=bus or access=taxi, it's bus=yes/no/designated + taxi=yes/no/designated added to another feature like a highway=* or amenity=parking<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree with the idea of using private_hire=* instead of <strike class="">rideshare=*</strike> because this appears to be a proper British English term for any non-taxi, privately arranged transport vehicle, and it's not as misleading as "rideshare" when used on services like Uber and Lyft. Though I would like to see more British folks weigh in on the correct terminology.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_the_United_Kingdom#Private_hire_(minicabs)" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_the_United_Kingdom#Private_hire_(minicabs)</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- Joseph EIsenberg</div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:51 AM Brian M. Sperlongano <<a href="mailto:zelonewolf@gmail.com" class="">zelonewolf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Actually I quite like "private_hire" as an access value.</blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Are you suggesting access=private_hire as a tag? That would not be consistent with how taxi services are tagged. We don't use access=taxi, we use amenity=taxi + taxi=*. By that logic, the access tagging should use private_hire=*, and probably with some value of amenity=.</div></div></div>
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