<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Since the tag man_made=threshing_floor has already been used 7 times (<a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=threshing_floor#values">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=threshing_floor#values</a>) you can create a page to document this, however, you would also need to mention that historic=threshing_floor is much more common (actually landuse=threshing_floor is also equally common), and it would probably be fair to create a historic=threshing_floor wiki page too, in that case. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>If you want to suggest deprecating historic=threshing_floor and replacing it with man_made=threshing_floor, or otherwise changing existing common usage, you should make a proposal so that the community can discuss this.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 2:53 PM António Madeira via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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So, given that most of those who commented this thread agreed that
threshing_floor should be in the man_made scheme, should I add it to
the wiki or create a Feature Proposal?<br>
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<div>Às 19:27 de 06/11/2020, Paul Allen
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020
um 13:56 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Martin
Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>To me it doesn't make sense to draw a line,
dividing the same objects having more or less
historic value. If there is something to
distinguish at all, my suggestion would be to
add a qualifier to those objects of exceptional
historical value (if this is verifiable).</div>
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<div>We have a way of tagging objects of exceptional
historical value, it's</div>
<div>historic=*. Objects of unexceptional historical
value, or of no historical</div>
<div>value do not get tagged with historic=*. That's
because historic is</div>
<div>not a synonym (in the real world or in tagging)
for old, disused or</div>
<div>repurposed.</div>
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<div>just that it is not what we are currently doing.</div>
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<div>That is not what some of us are currently doing. Others
read the wiki page</div>
<div>and tag accordingly.</div>
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<div>It occurs to me that some of the mis-tagging (as I see
it) and some of the</div>
<div>discussions here may revolve around semantics as
interpreted by</div>
<div>those who do not have English as a first language. There
is a</div>
<div>difference between "historical" and "historic."</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Historians are concerned with historical data. Old data
(about</div>
<div>populations, diseases or whatever) is historical data.
The</div>
<div> assassination of a minor archduke, which seemed
unimportant</div>
<div>at the time, quickly turned into a historic event.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>When somebody says that "historic" applies to everything
that</div>
<div>historians do, that is incorrect. What historians mostly
do is</div>
<div>look at historical data, some small fraction of which is</div>
<div>also historic.</div>
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<div>See <a href="https://www.grammarly.com/blog/historic-historical/" target="_blank">https://www.grammarly.com/blog/historic-historical/<br>
</a></div>
<div>for a better explanation.<br>
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<div>So historic=* really should only apply (as the wiki page
states) to the important</div>
<div>things of the past, not everything some random historian
might happen</div>
<div>to be looking into.</div>
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<div>So the question is, do we accept that because some
mappers have misused</div>
<div>the tag we should encourage that misuse or do we
discourage it?</div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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