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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/20 11:06 am, Casper Van Battum
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<div dir="auto">I believe access=no would apply for this specific
situation, in the sense that the organization mentioned doesn't
want people walking on the trails. I'm guessing it's either
protected land or private property these trails are on. Since
the organization mentioned they didn't want to put up "no
access" signs, it would be appropriate to map the paths as such.<br>
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<div dir="auto">However I'm with you on that this brings us no
closer to a general solution for tagging animal paths, that
applies even beyond this specific situation.<br>
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<div dir="auto">The big question is: what distinguishes an animal
path from a human path? Animals use human paths, and in numerous
cases humans use animal paths. It would be hard to define it. </div>
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<p>Animals come in different sizes. <br>
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<p>A pad made by wild horses have sufficient height and width that
most hikers could use them, this they can get muddy or steep in
certain places.<br>
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<p>A pad made by wombats can go under plants that would have humans
crawling on their stomachs not just on their hands and knees. <br>
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<div dir="auto">We generally follow the guidelines to tag highways
according to their usage (see tracks vs roads for example).
Currently highway=path is defined as "generic path, multi-usage
or unspecified usage" and animal paths do already fit that
description. We could define animal paths as "generic path, used
mainly by animals" but I suppose it should be a specific kind of
path (something along the lines of highway=path+animal=yes)
rather than a new type of highway. But again, is this enough of
a distinction to merit its own tagging scheme?<br>
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<p>I would not encourage the use of the tag 'animal' as it is a real
mess! See taginfo for the variety of values that have no
coordination. Example animal=wellness ... for which animals and
then the problem of tagging that... terrible. <br>
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<div dir="auto">Cheers, Casper</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 Dec 2020, at 00:47, Martin
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<p>I wouldn't tag this as foot=no or access=no. There
are many trails in my area that are clearly animal
tracks and seldom used by people - but it is allowed
for people to walk on these and they are sometimes
significant shortcuts so allowing routing over them
in some cases would be good. </p>
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<div>After reading the comments to the diary post that the
OP linked, I believe that they mostly do not apply to the
situation here. People were mainly concerned about
wildlife protection, and Belgian cows are not falling
under my idea of "wildlife". <br>
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