<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Mi., 2. Dez. 2020 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Daniel Capilla <<a href="mailto:dcapillae@gmail.com">dcapillae@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have documented the use of "historic=cemetery" [1] and some new types <br>
of tombs, such as "tomb=table" [2], "tomb=pillar" [3], or <br>
"tomb=cenotaph" (empty tomb) [4].<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hello Daniel,</div><div><br></div><div>thank you for discussing this here. I have a few remarks:</div><div><br></div><div>Tomb types:<br></div><div>- table tomb seems generally ok, although it could also be seen as a candidate for a tombstone / gravestone subtag (see below)</div><div>- tomb=pillar and tomb=obelisk seem to be descriptions of the tombstone rather than the tomb? For obelisks, there is man_made=obelisk which is based on shape and can be used for any kind of obelisk.</div><div>there are also already 243 man_made=column and 593 man_made=pillar in the db (but I can see how a pillar tomb could get its own specific tag nonetheless as a tomb category).</div><div>If we mix tombstone shapes and tomb types I would expect we will come to situations where several tags could apply (a mausoleum with an obelisk? A vault with a pillar on top?) Not completely sure though, if the "pillar" can really be called a "tombstone" in every case.</div><div><br></div><div>tomb=cenotaph is a bit misleading, because a cenotaph is not actually a tomb, it only looks like a tomb. Admittedly I have added it myself in 2016, but looking at it I am bit unsure whether to keep it: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/tombs&diff=prev&oldid=1345992">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/tombs&diff=prev&oldid=1345992</a> It is currently only used 14 times in the whole world. Maybe this would fit better under the historic=monument / memorial umbrella (subtag)?<br></div><div><br></div><div>historic=cemetery</div><div>The tag historic=cemetery already has some significant usage (446), but there are 3,5 times more landuse=cemetery and historic=* tag combinations (1576). IMHO we do not need both (for active cemeteries). FWIW, there are also 8 historic=graveyard objects. I believe the page should be amended, because it currently only discourages this tag for a necropolis, but there are many more burial places which could be or not considered cemeteries according to the definition (which is not given currently) I found this handy list in Wikipedia and have marked the unsure ones with an asterisk:<br></div><div>* Catacomb<br>* Churchyard (and graveyard)<br>* Coemeterium<br>* Columbarium<br>Crypt<br>* Grave field<br>* Mass grave<br>Memorial Park<br>* Necropolis<br>* Ossuary<br>Tomb<br>Tumulus<br>Unmarked grave<br>War grave</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=cemetery#combinations">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=cemetery#combinations</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Martin<br></div><div><br></div></div>