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Sorry for spamming.<br>
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I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a
funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly
elevators, like this one:
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. It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I
have been inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a
funicular. But maybe others disagree...<br>
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Guillaume<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM
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Color Emoji","Segoe UI
Emoji";font-size:14px">The wiki page text says
that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also known
as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable
railway in which a cable attached to a pair of
tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and down a
steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles
counterbalancing each other.”</p>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe
UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple
Color Emoji","Segoe UI
Emoji";font-size:14px;margin-bottom:0px">However,
the description in the infobox (which is much more
commonly seen in places like taginfo and iD) is only
“Cable driven inclined railway” - and this could
include many types of "inclined elevators” which
mostly run on rails too. So mappers might be using
railway=funicular for inclined elevators already.</p>
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<div dir="auto">Indeed they are. For example, here's the
Montmartre Funicular in Paris, which was historically a true
funicular but is now technically a pair of inclined elevators:
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578</a></div>
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<div dir="auto">The distinction between a funicular and an
inclined elevator is to me a technical one. Many inclined
elevators, like the previous example, are named as funiculars,
and passengers may not even notice that they are on one or the
other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up
and down steeply sloped rails.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as
funiculars whenever they may resemble one. Perhaps an
additional tag like railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could
be invented for those interested in the technical details on
how the steep-slope-railway-thing works. </div>
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