<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 23:37, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div>Kevin Kenny argued (I think convincingly) that the hazard is fallen, not</div><div>falling, rocks. There is a very slight risk that a rock will fall on your</div><div>vehicle but the greater risk, by far, is that you will drive into a fallen</div><div>rock.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But not always!</div><div><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WsC1Ee0QfGg/SdqAsY6oJwI/AAAAAAAAAkg/P71eh3vrZj0/s280/rockslide+4.bmp" target="_blank">https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WsC1Ee0QfGg/SdqAsY6oJwI/AAAAAAAAAkg/P71eh3vrZj0/s280/rockslide+4.bmp</a></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div>Editors could make both fallen and falling searchable, and identify</div><div>the preset as "falling/fallen rocks," so we might as well make the</div><div>value reflect the really big risk rather than the very small one.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>While I agree with you, our signs do say "Falling"!</div><div><br></div><div>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 03:30, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><br></div><div>Also, in the UK, the sign for unexploded ordnance is the same as you</div><div>have for minefields. That symbol first appeared in UK Defence Standard</div><div>05-34, Marking of Service Matériel, and was called (bizarrely) "Unexploded</div><div> explosive ordnance" (if it has exploded it would no longer be explosive,</div><div>and if it's explosive then it must be unexploded). In old money it</div><div>would have been called "unexploded bomb."<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Our UXO, or "Live bombs" sign, depending on the sign it's on, is <a href="https://cdn-01.media-brady.com/store/stuk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/85e4522595efc69f496374d01ef2bf13/1563992197/d/m/dmeu_hz185ad_std.lang.all.jpg">https://cdn-01.media-brady.com/store/stuk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/85e4522595efc69f496374d01ef2bf13/1563992197/d/m/dmeu_hz185ad_std.lang.all.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>I think that moved away from "bomb" because other things (artillery shells, grenades, rockets etc) can all blow up & kill you?</div><div><br></div><div>
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 04:13, Brian M. Sperlongano <<a href="mailto:zelonewolf@gmail.com">zelonewolf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><ul><li>Hidden dip</li></ul></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Maybe. There is a barely used tag hazard=dip. Is this a permanent feature? I usually see these in relation to road construction. Note that speed dips are already covered under the key traffic_calming, so this would have to describe a permanent, signed dangerous feature that wasn't put there for traffic control reason.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, they are permanent features & relatively common out here, with a "very" complicated warning sign!</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-9.svg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-9.svg</a></div><div><br></div>A few more that I've just thought of:</div><div><br></div><div>Tilting truck:
This sign warns that trucks may tip over when driving around the curve of the road or when making a turn. <br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_W1-8_(L).svg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_W1-8_(L).svg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Emergency vehicles:
give you early warning that emergency vehicles may suddenly drive in or out of their entrance onto the road. <br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-SA70.svg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-SA70.svg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Grid: to warn that you are approaching a cattle grid - we already have a tag for grids, do we also need a sign to warn that they're coming up?</div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Australia#/media/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-16.svg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Australia#/media/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-16.svg</a></div><div><br></div><div>
<div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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