<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">13 dec. 2020 kl. 15:21 skrev Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" class="">pla16021@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> I'm probably misunderstanding this, but torp doesn't seem to be a type of</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">building. The tag building=torp says that this building IS a torp (as</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">opposed to a house, or a shop, or a garage, or a shed, or a barn).</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">If you feel a need to indicate that a building was once part of a torp,</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">building=torp isn't the way to do it.</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">You’re right; I was extremely sloppy with terminology there. A torp is (or rather was) a small farm, usually either part of a bigger farm and farmed by a tenant, paying rent to the bigger farm in the form of work, or farmed by a soldier (paying rent by, well, being a soldier). Today, most of them are either completely gone or used as summer houses, very probably not with the original building.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I suppose what I wanted to say was:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* place=locality is used about all sorts of things, both inhabited and uninhabited, and is pretty much useless.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* There are many places around Sweden (and probably the rest of the world as well!) where there is just forest (or fields) today, that have a name because they were, at some time, a torp (or some other kind of settlement). To render these in ”swedish topo-map style” (i.e, italics), some sort of tagging is needed to say ”this place has a name because it used to be a farm/torp/whatever, but today there is nothing here”. (I suppose some would argue that these should not be in OSM at all, because they are very hard to verify on the ground).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* There are also isolated dwellings, hamlets, villages, suburbs and airport car parks (comparing old and present-day maps around Stockholm-Arlanda airport is quite fun) whose names refer to long-gone torps, but those can be tagged according to their present-day usage.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I’d like to apologize to Anders for derailing this thread by bringing up the subject at all! It was intended as an illustration of the uselessness of locality, but I got a bit carried away. Trying to render consistent maps from inconsistent OSM data does that to you. =)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>