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<p>When I started using JOSM, which is not so long ago, I hated it. If one is used to graphic software from say Adobe etc, many things in the user interface feel backwards. But now when I've got into it, one can really work effectively. When I started I didn't really understand the multipolygon concept fully either, so the error messages I got was really cryptic, but now when I understand all these things JOSM works great.</p>
<p>What I do miss in JOSM though is advanced tools for managing multipolygons, there are some splitting and joining and some additional tools as plugins, but these are generally limited in scope, so I often end up having to hand-edit the ways and relations when making more advanced splits/joins/geometry upgrades. For that the relation editor works very well though, but one really needs to know what one's doing :-).</p>
<p>If one is a programmer and want to contribute to OSM mapping efficiency as the OSM map becomes more and more detailed, I believe developing more advanced and complete multipolygon tools for JOSM is a good bet.</p>
<p>In iD, areas with multipolygons can be very hard to edit, unless you know how they are constructed so you can go in and hand-edit tags. So they can be a bit of a pain, but they are unavoidable if we want detailed mapping, and as the map develops we get more and more into this space.</p>
<p>/Anders</p>
<p id="reply-intro">On 2020-12-15 10:21, Peter Elderson wrote:</p>
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<div>I am not qualified to judge elegance, but I find JOSM's relation editor the best there is. I don't think relations are very complex data structures, but the construct is versatile. It's what people do with them that makes it complex. But hey, the same goes for the node, the way and the area. </div>
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