<div dir="ltr">+1<br><div><br></div><div>IMHO these are complementary. waterway=rapids can be tagged from overhead imagery, and the additional detail of the rapids can be added later by people with subject matter expertise.</div><div><br></div><div>I see this as equivalent to sac_scale=* for hiking trails - it does not replace the underlying highway=path, it adds more detail as to the type of path.</div><div><br></div><div>Since both taggings are in use (and one is approved), it is appropriate to document both. If someone thinks that waterway=rapids should be deprecated, I think the burden would be on them to propose that.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:58 PM Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>In the year 2020 waterway=rapids has been added a couple hundred times, and the other two tags whitewater:section_grade and whitewater:rapid_grade have been used about 100 times each: <a href="https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/whitewater:rapid_grade/&***/whitewater:section_grade/&***/waterway/rapids" target="_blank">https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/whitewater:rapid_grade/&***/whitewater:section_grade/&***/waterway/rapids</a> (zoom in to the most recent yet)</div><div><br></div><div>I think both tagging methods have their use. The tag waterway=rapids is great to add to a node to specify that there are rapids here, and the others are good for expert kayakers and rafters who are able to assess the rapid grade.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know enough about the subject to make a proposal to clear things up, but the existing tags seem to be fine.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dec 16, 2020, 19:27 by <a href="mailto:kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com" target="_blank">kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">The last time I looked, there was no non-deprecated way to map the information that I had.<br></div></div></blockquote><div>That is sign of bad tagging scheme.<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I now see that @jeisenbe has restored the `waterway=rapids` tag to the Wiki. <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Is it enough?<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I asked here on the mailing list, and the only answers that I got were along the lines of "then don't map it." So for several years I haven't attempted to map rapids. The ones I know of and want to render, I maintain separately from OSM, because the previous discussion had caused me to label this feature mentally as, "OSM doesn't want this mapped."<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>:( Hopefully this can be fixed so this will not happen.<br></div> </div>
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