<div dir="ltr"><div>The OSM wiki page Traffic_calming defines
<ul><li><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a class="gmail-mw-selflink gmail-selflink">traffic_calming</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:traffic_calming%3Drumble_strip" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Tag:traffic calming=rumble strip">rumble_strip</a></tt></li></ul>as a structure that crosses the road. It also says explicitly:<br></div><div>"
Do not confuse with longitudinally placed rumble strips to alert drivers
that they are leaving their lane, which are generally not mapped by
OSM. (See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/rumble_strips" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:rumble strips">rumble strips</a>.)" <br></div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the legal aspect of riding on the hard shoulder. I don't know the general rules in the US States, but I rode several hundred km on freeway hard shoulders in the western US that were explicitly signed as "cyclist use hard shoulder". If necessary I can check with my friends of Adventure Cycling Association - they are running a campaign to improve the situation regarding the danger posed by longitudinal rumbling strips in the US.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jeremy Harris <<a href="mailto:jgh@wizmail.org" target="_blank">jgh@wizmail.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 20/12/2020 16:07, Volker Schmidt wrote:<br>
> Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers<br>
> <<a href="https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/vxYMpzmOjO8cZtfOMfFsKA" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/vxYMpzmOjO8cZtfOMfFsKA</a>>?<br>
> I have encountered them on freeways and other major roads that allow<br>
> cyclists, in the western States of the USA.<br>
<br>
How about<br>
<br>
cycleway = shoulder<br>
shoulder:barrier = rumble_strip<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm pretty sure a hard shoulder isn't actually a cycleway. </div></div></div>
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