<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 13:57, ipswichmapper--- via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><br><div>From reading all these comments, it is clear a "crossing=priority" is not a good tag. In many places, pedestrians always have priority at intersections even if there is no crossing. The "crossing=priority", however, assumed that the crossing is marked (if it gives priority). This is because of my experience in the UK. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Even in the UK it's not quite that simple.</div><div><br></div><div>At light-controlled crossings, vehicles must stop on red whether there are</div><div>pedestrians or not. On flashing amber, vehicles must give way to</div><div>pedestrians but may proceed with caution if there are no pedestrians.</div><div>Even on green, vehicles must give way to pedestrians still on the</div><div>crossing (there shouldn't be any, but if there are...)<br></div><div><br></div><div>At zebra crossings, vehicles must slow down if pedestrians are</div><div>waiting to cross. However, vehicles do not have to give way to</div><div>pedestrians until they move onto the crossing (this contrasts</div><div>with priorities in other countries where pedestrians waiting</div><div>to cross but have not yet stepped onto the crossing have priority).<br></div><div><br></div><div>There may be many uncontrolled crossings (no lights, no</div><div> zebra markings) in built-up areas, mostly at junctions. They</div><div> typically have a dropped curb with tactile paving of a</div><div>different colour (does that count as markings or not?).</div>Cars have priority (pedestrians must wait for a gap in</div><div class="gmail_quote">traffic) but once a pedestrian has started to cross,</div><div class="gmail_quote">the pedestrian has priority over traffic turning</div><div class="gmail_quote">into the junction.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Crossing is legal elsewhere (unlike some jurisdictions)</div><div>but pedestrians are advised to use a controlled crossing</div><div>if there is one nearby. Pedestrians do not have<br></div><div>priority even when they're on the road but motorists</div><div>are required to try to avoid running over pedestrians.</div><div><br></div><div>There are probably cases I've missed.</div><div><br></div><div>Pedestrian priority isn't a simple yes/no.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div>