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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dec 22, 2020, 00:42 by graemefitz1@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 23:24, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div><div>Dec 20, 2020, 23:29 by <a target="_blank" href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 17:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div>How objects tagged now with amenity=lifeboat_station should be tagged after this proposal passes?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They were a late addition after somebody pointed out that they exist. They would be replaced by emergency=marine_rescue, which has already been defined as groups "
dedicated to the rescue of vessels &/or sailors at sea"<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>The problem is that some water rescue stations are not marine but inland.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, not many but some, which is why I have changed the marine rescue definition to include "or inland waters". <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>marine rescue defined to not be limited to marine is quite ugly<br></div><div><br></div><div>Is term "water rescue" clear and acceptable? (not a native speaker)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><div>However, a lot of the inland rescue stations that I have looked at, appear to be lifeguard services intended to look after swimmers close to shore, rather than vessels &/or sailors in deeper waters, so they should probably be listed under one of the lifeguard tags?<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>At least <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.0312&mlon=21.7749#map=12/54.0312/21.7749">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.0312&mlon=21.7749#map=12/54.0312/21.7749</a><br></div><div>(at relatively small lake) has[1] speedboats and other equipment capable of rescuing people<br></div><div>sailing in deeper waters, about 1.5 km from shore (not farther, as middle of lake is <br></div><div>1-2 km from nearest land). In the worst case they would rescuing (coordinating rescue)<br></div><div>from big tourism ships circling lake and carrying about 100-200 people or people from sailing<br></div><div>boats who ignored warning of an incoming storm.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am not familiar with Baikal or other actually big lakes but I expect that they may have<br></div><div>similar or more serious rescue services, comparable with marine ones.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><div>Looking at some of the existing lifeboat tags, I've also noticed that virtually all of them are tagged as both amenity=lifeboat & also emergency=lifeboat, which would seem to break the One Tag Only rule? <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>We have no "one tag rule". There may be confusion with<br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element</a><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div><div>Suggesting rendering is OK. But "should render with the same pink colour as currently used for"<br></div><div>reads like instruction that render is supposed to follow<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Certainly not intended that way!<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Great! I was mentioning this because there were cases of confused people who <br></div><div>thought that OSM Carto (default map style) is obligated to follow outcomes<br></div><div>of proposal process, including implementation of proposed rendering rules.<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] or more specifically - had when I was there last time<br></div> </body>
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