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<p>On 2020-12-27 10:42, Florian Lohoff wrote:</p>
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<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:16:30PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote:
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">On 2020-12-23 11:54, Florian Lohoff wrote:<br /><br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">Tagging access=no/private means NO, NEVER EVER. So all the food<br /> delivery/postal service are not allowed to enter. Thats not the meaning<br /> of a driveway. A driveway is a "semi public" road which is more like<br /> "permissive" than of "no/private". You are not handing out permissions<br /> in advance but you may decide to send people of your property.</blockquote>
<br /> access=private does not mean NO, NEVER EVER. It means you need<br /> individual permission. This permission can be explicit (like a letter of</blockquote>
<br /> From an automated, computer type of usage its no - Because the machine<br /> e.g. your routing engine can not know for which of the road snippets<br /> you have an individual permission. So routing engines need to treat<br /> private as no.</div>
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<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">I have to disagree here. It is perfectly possible to create a routing engine that has a list of permits in its profile. If routers can avoid both static and dynamic hinderances such as ferries, toll roads, environmental zones, road works, low bridges and diversions, it is possible for them to maintain a list of permits/waivers for such restrictions. Do you have a green environmental sticker? If yes, then I will route you down here, otherwise we will go the long way. In the case of a driveway, all it would take is a popup asking "Destination is on a private road. Accept?"</div>
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<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">But of course the router needs to be able to know when to show this popup. I would expect highway=*, access=private to be enough. But access=no is just a no-go for a router.</div>
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