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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I had actually previously started working on a power=battery
proposal - it is however not close to finished. I got stuck on the
metohd of classification as there is no international standard yet
for this. I haven't had an opportunity to look at the talk of
energy_storage yet yet, but if someone would like to contribute to
the power=battery proposal, feel free!<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:power%3Dbattery">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:power%3Dbattery</a></p>
<p>Cheers, Lukas<br>
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<p>n 29.12.20 10:13, François Lacombe wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Christian,</div>
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<div>As mentioned before, this proposal is a good opportunity to
get better definition of such devices like batteries.</div>
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<div>Extending power=generator with its 3-levels classification
isn't required if we consider a power=battery feature beside
it.</div>
<div>I'm not happy with things like
generator:storage:type=lithium-ion and would really prefer
power=battery + battery=lithium-ion + storage=electrochemical</div>
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<div>I've added some points in the Talk and will be pleased to
discuss them.</div>
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<div>All the best</div>
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<div>François</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 29 déc. 2020 à 01:47,
Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> a
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Nit
picking...<br>
<br>
Please avoid the word 'type'.<br>
<br>
In this case "plant:storage:type=lithium-ion"<br>
<br>
This is a description of the battery construction .. so<br>
<br>
battery:construction= lithium-ion could be better.<br>
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-----------------<br>
plant:storage:source = battery<br>
<br>
Why source? Why not plant:storage= battery?<br>
<br>
Then plant:storage=193.5 MWh could become
storage:capacity=193.5 MWh<br>
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<br>
In the tagging section there is<br>
<br>
"Battery storage with"<br>
<br>
then one of the next section use the more correct<br>
<br>
"Energy storage as rotational inertia in flywheels"<br>
<br>
I suggest changing "Battery storage with" to "Energy storage
using <br>
chemistry in lithium-ion batteries" for example.<br>
<br>
Similarly;<br>
"Energy storage with supcercapacitors" becomes "Energy
storage <br>
using electric fields in super capacitors"<br>
<br>
"Energy storage in superconducting magnetic coils" becomes
"Energy <br>
storage using magnetic fields from superconducting magnetic
coils"<br>
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On 29/12/20 3:01 am, Christian Pietzsch wrote:<br>
> I updated my power storage proposal based on some
discussion about :source.<br>
> If someone is interested, I would appreciate feedback
about the changes.<br>
> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_storage#Tagging_.28V2.29"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_storage#Tagging_.28V2.29</a><br>
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>> On 22/12/2020 19:39, Christian Pietzsch wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> I've been working on a new proposal to
standardize end extent the way we tag power (electricity)<br>
>>> storage.<br>
>>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_storage"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_storage</a><br>
>>> I'm at a point now that I need feedback from the
community.<br>
>>> The different methods of storage are sometimes a
bit fluid and intertwined so I'm really welcoming<br>
>>> feedback on the categorization and everything
else.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'll have to follow different channels of
communication (forum/mailing list/Telegram). I therefore<br>
>>> might not answer here immediately. Best focus
comments and recommendations on the discussion page<br>
>>> of the proposal (<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Power_storage"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Power_storage</a>)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Christian<br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Tagging mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>>> <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Tagging mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
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rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
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