<div dir="ltr">I agree that the best option is to map the fence (or wall, or hedge) with a separate way, since usually there will be at least one gap for a gate or entrance way. <div><br></div><div>However, if you are going to add the information to the area rather than mapping it precisely, it makes perfect sense to use "fenced=yes". </div><div><br></div><div>You could also use "walled=yes" or "hedged=yes" for areas surrounded by a wall or hedge.</div><div><br></div><div>This is better than tagging barrier=hedge + landuse=meadow on the same closed way, or amenity=school + barrier=wall, because adding both tags to the same object makes it ambiguous to data users if the area is supposed to represent the area of a wall or hedge. </div><div><br></div><div>While it's obvious to a human when looking at the rendered object, it's rather difficult to write software to interpret this clearly: an object is supposed to be an area or a line, not both</div><div><br></div><div>But when you add barrier=wall or barrier=hedge to another tag which usually represents an area (like landuse= or amenity=), it suggests this might be a wall or hedge micro-mapped as an area.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:24 PM Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You could add a way on top of another closed way which shares the same nodes for part of it. I'd commonly do this for a leisure=park which might be fenced off on one side.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 11:06, Marc_marc <<a href="mailto:marc_marc@mailo.com" target="_blank">marc_marc@mailo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
what's the best to tag a fenced area ?<br>
<br>
previously I used fenced=yes to describe a *characteristic*<br>
of the area (the area has a fence at the outer, the object<br>
isn't a fence it-self)<br>
but the wiki said it's depreciated in favor of barrier=fence.<br>
but that's not the same : barrier=fence is a linear feature at the<br>
outer, mixing 2 features in one object is a bad pratice.<br>
and nothing said if the fence is mapped as an area or not (area=no<br>
is not usable in this case, due the mix with an area on the same object)<br>
<br>
so, what's the best ?<br>
- restore fenced=yes as a valid tag for a characteristic of one objet<br>
(and keep of course barrier=fence for the fence it-self) ?<br>
or<br>
- move the area feature to a relation ? (we don't tag for a tools, but<br>
are the tools able of having a linear geometry for the barrier and a<br>
relation describing an area using the previous linear geometry?)<br>
or<br>
- move the linear feature to a relation ?<br>
or<br>
- if the number of node is small, create 2 ways, one for the linear,<br>
another for the area ?<br>
or<br>
- take an aperitif, it's New Year's Eve ? :)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Marc<br>
<br>
<br>
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