<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Lots of comments!<div><br></div><div>1) Radiology vs imaging:</div><div>In my experience in the US, many hospitals have a "Radiology department" which originally was for x-rays (aka Roncen / radiography / "plain films") back when that was the only technology. Smaller X-ray machines can be portable but the better ones are installed permanently. The Radiology department also has rooms for the Radiologist (a specialist physician) to look at the images.</div><div><br></div><div>Later CT (computed tomography) was added, where the patient slides through a circular machine which sends x-rays from all angles, allowing to compute 2-d slices and even 3-d models of the inside of the body, based on different x-ray absorption. </div><div><br></div><div>MRI uses a totally different technology, nuclear magnetic resonance (but the name MRI "magnetic resonance imaging" was changed because the word "nuclear" sounds radioactive, which is incorrect, and the magnetic field is what is measured). It might be found next to the CT room, but might be in a new building, since they require very expensive and complex magnetic shielding in the surrounding walls. </div><div><br></div><div>Ultrasound machines are often portable but will usually have a home in the radiology department, even though they operate with high frequency sound waves, not radiation, they are also "medical imaging", and will be interpreted by a "Radiologist" - though OB docs and Family Medicine physicians like myself can also do it. </div><div><br></div><div>So, the historic term "Radiology department / ward" is still used in hospitals. But the outpatient facilities often call themselves a "Medical imaging centre" and offer the same technologies, with the difference that many outpatient imaging centres do not actually have a Radiologist or physician in the building most of the time. </div><div><br></div><div>I would propose using the same tag for both hospital "Radiology wards/departments" and outpatient medical imaging facilities, since for a general map users they are more or less the same feature. (healthcare=medical_imaging seems most popular)</div><div><br></div><div>2) Endoscopy</div><div>> "<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Endoscopy was nearby but not in the radiology department. That </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">probably counts as medical imaging, though"</span></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div>Endoscopy, including Colonoscopies and EGDs, are not medical imaging. These are invasive procedures where a gastroenterologist (GI doc) sends a long flexible tube down your throat or up through your rectum. "Imaging" is more or less non-invasive (though you might need to drink some "contrast media" or have an injection). </div><div><br></div><div>3) Dental-only radiography</div><div>Re: "<a href="http://www.rentgen-gertrudy.pl/" target="_blank">http://www.rentgen-gertrudy.pl/</a> Looking at their website they actually offer solely variety of dental x-rays."</div><div>Well that's interesting. I suppose this is a good case for adding healthcare:speciality=dental - it's true that the dental x-ray equipment is often quite specialized. If these are very common in your country, it could also be possible to have healthcare=dental_xray - but it might be quite limited in use. </div><div><br></div><div>For an ordinary dentist office, you could use "xray=yes" or "xray=no" to describe the presence of x-ray facilities in the dental office.</div><div><br></div><div>3) Interventional radiology</div><div>There are sub-specialist radiologists who do procedures to treat cancer or tumors or blood clots, called interventional radiologists. These services will generally be in a hospital, since they are risky, and often have a special suite or room. They involve invasive procedures (sticking needles and tubes into your body), so are not just imaging. We should discuss this sort of feature along with other hospital departments which perform operations and procedures, such as surgery, labor & delivery, endoscopy, cath lab, trauma surgery, and so on.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:35 AM António Madeira <<a href="mailto:antoniomadeira@gmx.com">antoniomadeira@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<br>
<br>
<div>Às 12:38 de 10/01/2021, Stefan Tauner
escreveu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:08:40 +0000
Paul Allen <a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank"><pla16021@gmail.com></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 13:45, Andy Townsend <a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com" target="_blank"><ajt1047@gmail.com></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On 10/01/2021 12:11, Paul Allen wrote:
If you're a physicist, that is correct. If you're in a hospital, those
(including ultrasound) are in the radiology department.
I believe that there are ultrasound imaging rooms adjacent to some of the
X Ray ones upstairs there.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>I think ultrasound is in a separate room to X-Ray/CAT/MRI in the big
hospital near me. Adjacent rooms, though, and all in the same department
called radiology.
Endoscopy was nearby but not in the radiology department. That
probably counts as medical imaging, though. So there appears to
be a distinction, in one hospital, between radiology and medical
imaging in general. Maybe Joseph can enlighten us.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>I want to point out that the initial subject was not related to
hospitals at all. There are external facilities that specialize on
these diagnostics only in some places. This subthread will only become
relevant when we start tagging hospital interiors. We most certainly
would not want to do that with a simple healthcare=* tag.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Yes, I agree. Please, stay on topic...<br>
I would go with this:<br>
<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 12:04, Minh Nguyen
via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>> Tags in use include healthcare=radiology - though this
is a bit<br>
</div>
<div> > ambiguous - perhaps amenity=medical_imaging or <br>
</div>
<div> > healthcare=medical_imaging is clearer?<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Something with "medical imaging" in it sounds reasonable.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
Yes, I'd go for healthcare=medical_imaging sub-tagged imaging=xray /
CT / MRI / nuclear etc
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
Tagging mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
</blockquote></div>