<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 12:14, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=beach#How_to_map" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=beach#How_to_map</a> recommends to use supervised for beaches with a lifeguard service, so before we change anything it would be good to hear if anyone is actually using supervised on beaches to mean something else apart from patrolled by lifeguards. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Very hard to tell?</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/12qR">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/12qR</a> says that there are 89 "supervised beaches with opening hours" but there aren't many details.</div><div><br></div><div>eg <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27492072#map=15/53.9883/11.2199">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27492072#map=15/53.9883/11.2199</a> says it's open 24/7, There is a DLRG Station <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/497903924">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/497903924</a> but I can't find any reference to it's operating hours, not even by the linked website.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230248985">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230248985</a> has opening_hours 10:00 - 18:00 & there is a Ranger Station at the back of the beach <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230248935">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230248935</a>. But do Rangers act as lifeguards? According to Mr G, the State Park itself is open 7-7, & there are a few comments about Rangers, but they only mention "Lots of Ranger security" & "Rangers collect the camping fees" <br></div><div><br></div><div>Searching <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700711724">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700711724</a> gets <a href="https://www.loirevalley-france.co.uk/organise-your-stay/activities/water/baignade-au-plan-deau-de-la-barbotine">https://www.loirevalley-france.co.uk/organise-your-stay/activities/water/baignade-au-plan-deau-de-la-barbotine</a> which says "Supervised beach", although part of <a href="https://www.osezmauges.fr/piscines/LOIPDL049V50213E-6/detail/montrevault-sur-evre/baignade-au-plan-d-eau-de-la-barbotine">https://www.osezmauges.fr/piscines/LOIPDL049V50213E-6/detail/montrevault-sur-evre/baignade-au-plan-d-eau-de-la-barbotine</a> translates to "
<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Swimming authorized only in the presence of bathing supervisors during the summer period from July 10 to August 31, 2020 (no supervision on Mondays): 
<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>- from Tuesday to Saturday from 2.15 p.m. to 7.00 p.m.</span></span></span>


<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>- Sunday from 2.15 p.m. to 8.00 p.m." <br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>Also says "
<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>Access to the beach and swimming prohibited for children under 8 years old unaccompanied by an adult" which would be a whole different can of worms to get into!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>Thanks</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b gmail-C1N51c"><span>Graeme</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><br></div></div>