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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 21, 2021, 17:53 by voschix@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>It's interesting to note how easily the same scene is interpreted in different ways . There is a lot of cultural baggage involved of which we are not aware, individually.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Oh, yes - definitely. Even on far more local level there are massive differences how people<br></div><div>map and consider bicycle infrastructure (and that is why OSM Wiki is useful)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Anyway, I tried in a different context, to get the Mapillary-to-Wikimedia transfer working, but got rejected in the authentication part.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>On which step? Have you managed to get photo out of Mapillary?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Have it crashed on Facebook side or on Wikimedia side?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe just taking screenhot of what Mapillary displays is viable?<br></div><div>And uploading that?<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>The other thing with "your" photo, apart from the cycle-way or cycle-lane issue would be that, at least in my local context, most cycle lanes are one-way<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>The same in mine, at least this is shared :)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>, one of each side of the carriageway. Most two-way cycling infrastructures would be separated from the carriageway for motorized traffic. That's most likely also why I saw in "your" photo a separate (two-way) cycleway, separated from the main carriageway by a parking strip with signed places for parked cars and an additional anti-dooring distance strip, i.e. much more "separation" from the carrigaway than most of the separate cycleways back here, which are in many cases only separated from the carriageway by the level difference of a curb with a step of less than 15 cm.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Volker<br></div><div id="m_-3887345171890081004DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><div><br></div><table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de"><tbody><tr><td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noopener noreferrer"><img style="width: 46px; height: 29px; max-width: 100px;" alt="" src="data:image/svg+xml;utf8,<svg version='1.1' viewBox='0 0 512 512' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'><rect width='512' height='512' fill='%23f8f8f8'/><path d='m220 212c0 12.029-9.7597 21.789-21.789 21.789-12.029 0-21.789-9.7597-21.789-21.789s9.7597-21.789 21.789-21.789c12.029 0 21.789 9.7597 21.789 21.789zm116.21 43.578v50.841h-159.79v-21.789l36.315-36.315 18.158 18.158 58.104-58.104zm10.895-79.893h-181.58c-1.9292 0-3.6315 1.7023-3.6315 3.6315v138c0 1.9292 1.7023 3.6315 3.6315 3.6315h181.58c1.9292 0 3.6315-1.7023 3.6315-3.6315v-138c0-1.9292-1.7023-3.6315-3.6315-3.6315zm18.158 3.6315v138c0 9.9867-8.1709 18.158-18.158 18.158h-181.58c-9.9867 0-18.158-8.1709-18.158-18.158v-138c0-9.9867 8.1709-18.158 18.158-18.158h181.58c9.9867 0 18.158 8.1709 18.158 18.158z' fill='%23b4b4b4' stroke-width='.11348'/></svg>" width="46" height="29"></a><br></td><td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:#41424e;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a target="_blank" style="color:#4453ea" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.avast.com</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table><div><a height="1" width="1" href="javascript:void(0)"></a><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:26, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div><div><div>It looks like a lane to me, without any physical separation - just strip of paint,<br></div><div>though a bit wider than usual, bus lanes in my city have similar and are not<br></div><div>mapped as a separate geometry.<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>I would tag it as a lane. Though less controversial example may be better.<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>Looking at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.mapillary.com/legal">https://www.mapillary.com/legal</a> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapillary">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapillary</a><br></div><div><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Mapillary">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Mapillary</a><br></div><div>Mapillary images can be used.<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>There is no direct way to display Mapillary image in OSM Wiki as far as I know.<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>You can download it (this part is unclear to me, I have no experience with Mapillary)<br></div><div>and upload it to Wikimedia Commons or OSM Wiki<br></div><div>(Wikimedia is nicer if you care about making it available to others, but<br></div><div>may be a bit more complicated)<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>Remember to specify image source when uploading<br></div><div>(as specific as you can, not just "Mapillary").<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 19, 2021, 16:08 by <a target="_blank" href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">voschix@gmail.com</a>:<br></div></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">* <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway:right=lane">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway:right=lane</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Matheusz,<br></div><div><br></div><div>The image you inserted is not showing a cyclelane.<br></div><div>I would tag it as either a separate cycleway plus separate footway or as a segregated foot-cycle-way.<br></div><div>I checked OSM and indeed<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://osm.org/go/Zct8Qsvzo?layers=Y&m="> it is tagged as separate cycleway</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://osm.org/go/Zct8Qsvzo?layers=Y&m=">This</a> is a (oneway) cycleway:right=lane<br></div><div><br></div><div>(Do you happen to know how to get a Mapillary image directly into the OSM Wiki?)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div><br></div><div>Volker<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-3887345171890081004gmail-m_-7844008710321757160m_-5194019104133488629DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><div><br></div><table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)"><tbody><tr><td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"><img alt="" style="width: 46px; height: 29px; max-width: 100px;" width="46" height="29"></a><br></td><td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:rgb(65,66,78);font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" style="color:rgb(68,83,234)">www.avast.com</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table><div><a width="1" height="1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> Tagging mailing list<br></div><div> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </body>
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