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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">Feb 7, 2021 13:28:39 Paul Allen <pla16021@gmail.com>:</span>
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<blockquote style="font-family:sans-serif;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"> <span>It may be a failing on my part, but I can often see when an idea has problems</span>
<br> <span>without knowing how to fix those problems. Do you really think that</span>
<br> <span>I should not call attention to the problems unless I can also suggest</span>
<br> <span>a solution? Do you think that ignoring a problem causes it to</span>
<br> <span>cease to be a problem?</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">Consider someone who puts together an import plan, and presents it to everyone for feedback. Negative feedback is good; if there is a problem, it is valuable to voice it. However, consider the perspective of someone who spends a lot of time doing research and planning, who gets a reponse that is just something like "This would conflate badly in this situation", and nothing else.</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">You could instead say, "Great work on the plan! I can see this being very valuable. I did consider that in this situation, the data might end up conflating badly. I don't know the data set as well as you do, but do you think there is a way to fix it?"</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">In the first one, when you only say something negative with nothing else, it gives the implicit impression that you only see a problem with the plan, and by extension, you do not want it to proceed. It is a form of gatekeeping.</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">However, in the second, you acknowledge and appreciate the work that went into it, and indicate that you would like to see the project proceed, while also presenting your problem in a way that invites discussion and coordination with the person who did the proposal.</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">This is a good thing to do, even when the feedback is a hard no, for example when there is an incompatible license on the data.</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">The major point is that there is a human being on the other side of the screen, usually one who wants the same thing you do: to improve OSM.</span>
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<blockquote style="font-family:sans-serif;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"> <span>The good faith principle is kind of a joke here to be quite honest, even if it's not intentional.</span>
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<br> <span>Ah, the well-known good faith principle of implying that most people are acting</span>
<br> <span>in bad faith, even if only unintentionally. And how, exactly, does one act in</span>
<br> <span>bad faith unintentionally, given that bad faith is an intentional act?</span>
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<br> <span>Paul</span>
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<br> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">One can act in bad faith unintentionally the same way that people can be racist unintentionally. If you aren't fully conscious of your biases, or you unconsciously make assumptions about someone's knowledge or skill level on a particular topic, you are acting on bad faith.</span>
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