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<p>Great! Thank you Martin.<br>
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<p>Finally, I will not make a formal proposal. I will document the
use of the tag considering this information and what has been
previously discussed here.<br>
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I will probably have time this weekend to document it on the wiki.
If anyone wants to document it beforehand, all collaboration is
welcome. Please feel free to modify/expand/correct the wiki page
when it becomes available with additional information as needed.<br>
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Thank you all very much for your collaboration.</p>
<p>Greetings from Spain.</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 11/2/21 a las 23:42, Martin
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<div>The "Key:historic" page on the wiki sets out factors to
be taken into account in order to consider something as
historic in terms of OSM [1].
<p>[1] <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:historic"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:historic</a></p>
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<div>I would like to point out that this is only due to a
relatively recent and undiscussed, unilateral amendment. Going
by usage, the key "historic" in OSM has not the meaning of
"historic" in language. It is used for anything loosely
coupled to history, but also for all contemporary objects of
the "same" kind. Just have a look at the values:</div>
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<div><a
href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/historic#values"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/historic#values</a></div>
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<div>1. memorial 20%, there is actually an inflationary use of
memorials, every politician who wants to make a statement sets
up a memorial for some unknown local people, at least half of
them are not truly historic, if we are honest to ourselves.</div>
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<div>2. archaeological site, 10,5%, ok</div>
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<div>3. wayside_cross 10,3% used for all kinds of wayside
crosses, almost none of them is "historic" in the sense of
historic</div>
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<div>4. ruins, 9.4% usually not historic, or it would be
considered an archaeological site by the mapper ;-)</div>
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<div>6. wayside_shrine 6,6%, some of them are historic, but most
are religious street furniture without historic significance</div>
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<div>how many of the 42076 charcoal piles do you think are of
extraordinary historic value?</div>
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<div>IMHO we should fix the wiki for historic=*, currently it is
not documenting our tagging reality.<br>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Martin<br>
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