<div dir="auto">This looks again a confusion of scrub and shrub</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, 12:01 Peter Neale via Tagging, <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir="ltr">IMHO Scrub that has been managed is not scrub any more.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The Wiki says, "<span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">The tag </span><tt dir="ltr" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;color:rgb(32,33,34);background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:natural" title="Key:natural" style="color:rgb(6,69,173);background:none" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">natural</a>=scrub</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> is used to tag areas of uncultivated land covered with shrubs, bushes or stunted trees."</span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">..and see also, </span></span><a href="https://www.thefreedictionary.com/scrubland" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.thefreedictionary.com/scrubland</a>, which says, </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">"<div><h2 style="font-weight:normal;display:inline-block;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:6px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">scrub·land</h2><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span style="vertical-align:text-bottom;margin:0px 3px 2px;display:inline-block;width:12px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;min-height:20px"><span title="" style="display:inline-block;margin:0px;vertical-align:text-bottom;font-size:0px;letter-spacing:-1px;color:white;width:12px;min-height:18px"></span></span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">(skrŭb′lănd′)</span><div style="min-width:200px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><i>n.</i><div style="min-width:200px;margin-left:1cm">An <span>area</span> of <span>land</span> <span>that</span> is <span>uncultivated</span> <span>and</span> <span>covered</span> <span>with</span> <span>sparse</span> <span>stunted</span> <span>vegetation."</span></div><div style="min-width:200px;margin-left:1cm"><span><br></span></div><div style="min-width:200px;margin-left:1cm"><span><br></span></div><div style="min-width:200px;margin-left:1cm"><span><br></span></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">So "<span><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">natural=scrub + managed=yes"</span></span></span></span></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">is an oxymoron.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:new times,serif;font-size:16px"><div>Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Peter</div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, 13 February 2021, 09:58:36 GMT, Marc_marc <<a href="mailto:marc_marc@mailo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marc_marc@mailo.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Le 13.02.21 à 10:40, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :<br clear="none">>> On 13 Feb 2021, at 10:05, Marc_marc <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:marc_marc@mailo.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">marc_marc@mailo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> natural=scrub + managed=yes ?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> amenity=drinking_water + drinking_water=no ?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It's not really the same thing, knowing that your answer is a trollotag,<br clear="none">whereas I was rather pointing out the inconsistency of the natural<br clear="none">criterion in a world where, in Europe, there is no longer any primary<br clear="none">forest or almost not any place where humans have never intervened.<br clear="none">next to my house there are 2 shrubs, one planted by a human,<br clear="none">the other not.<br clear="none">it really deserves 2 different main tags ?<br clear="none">good luck to avoid the error, you are in theoretical considerations.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/13Am" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/13Am</a><br clear="none">what's next ? man_made=tree for tree planted by human ?<div id="m_-6527198795849918133ydp50a9e520yqtfd43539"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Tagging mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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