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<p><font face="Verdana">Regarding Martin's remark:</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">> </font>there is barrier=hedge for
intentionally cultivated scrub</p>
<p>That is very true and a very useful tag when it is in regard to
"cultivated scrub" that is planted on a boundary or has a barrier
function.<br>
It is very well described on our wiki and on wikipedia, that a
hedge is a feature with primarily barrier or boundary function.<br>
I know that there sometimes appears confusion whether or not we
should use a "barrier" tag if a hedge has a primarily decorative
function.<br>
However, the way it is defined looks good and clear to me, it has
either a barrier or boundary function, where boundaries does not
mean by default that it has a barrier function. So decorative
hedges perfectly fit under the bariier=hedge tag since they have a
boundary function, to create a decorative boundary.</p>
<p>This doesn't however resolve the issue for the natural=scrub
being according to the wiki by definition being located on
"uncultivated" land. It is also perfect to understand why our
users are searching for a different tagging scheme in this
particular case, the "hedge" or "shrub" or "scrub" being referred
to, as I can recall from the example pictures in the proposal,
have no barrier, neither a boundary function. To that one can add
the reasoning that hedges, if we refer to our wiki or wikipedia,
is a term mostly, if not by definition, used in conjunction with a
linear feature, although, we allow the tag on areas for obvious
reasons. One can argue but the given examples and the solution
one is looking for here are clearly not linear features, not even
close.</p>
<p>So I remain with my point of view, that scrub, combined or not
with a managed key is the best way to go. Moreover to delete the
"uncultivated" description from the scrub wiki, since it limits
the use of this natural value, which primary purpose is to
describe the type of vegetation, not it's use , cultivation or
maintenance, so to my opinion definitively incorrect. It also
gives an opportunity now to reach a consensus, that we should link
to barrier=hedge from natural=scrub to make clear that it is
preferred to use that tagging scheme when the now managed or
cultivated scrub has a barrier or boundary function, either
decorative or not.</p>
<p>Greetings, Bert Araali<br>
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