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    <p><font face="Verdana">No offense Peter, but please first think,
        cool down before you decide to answer on a short message which
        had all good intentions to prevent your great ideas from
        proceeding with success.<br>
        Sending a link to the import together with the original request
        for tagging advise doesn't seem a big effort to me. In the
        contrary, it seems as an import where the compatibility of the
        data has not been sufficiently investigated before proceeding.
        But of course that is my personal opinion. <br>
        Nothing is perfect, neither is this talk page, but it is
        moderated for good reasons as the tone of your reply. And in
        this case could have been prevented by sending the link to the
        import, a very small effort, in the first place.  Much less then
        me or other community members having to consult an import list
        because we have to guess that it could concern an import, not
        referred to in any way, see who participates in it and then
        kindly point them out to guidelines to prevent their efforts
        being reverted.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Verdana">Regards, Bert Araali<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/02/2021 21:48, Peter Elderson
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      <div dir="ltr">S&R strategy - Sigh & Reply by sending the
        URL, over and over again.
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        <div>Moderation will not prevent this.</div>
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          <div>Peter Elderson<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op di 16 feb. 2021 om 19:23
          schreef Skyler Hawthorne <<a href="mailto:osm@dead10ck.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">osm@dead10ck.com</a>>:<br>
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          <div> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">To add to what
              Kenny said, as an aside, this is a good example of the
              earlier discussion of the kinds of behavior that need
              moderating. Every single time I mention my import outside
              of the imports list, if I don't painstakingly reexplain
              the entire context with links to my import wiki page and
              previous discussions about it, someone inevitably assumes
              I'm just doing a rogue import and jumps in my face to tell
              me to follow the rules. It's quite exhausting and makes it
              very difficult to participate in the community. There
              needs to be more good faith around here.</span> <br>
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              <p>Feb 16, 2021 12:09:01 Kevin Kenny <<a
                  href="mailto:kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"> On Tue, Feb 16,
                      2021 at 12:00 PM Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <<a
                        href="mailto:bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote: <br>
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                        <p><font face="Verdana">Skyler, if you are
                            planning to do a mass import it is strongly
                            advised to follow <a
                              href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import</a>.
                            Without carefully following the steps of
                            this guidelines there is a very high chance
                            they will be rejected and reverted.</font></p>
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                    <div> (Beating Skyler to the punch) </div>
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                    <div> This is a much-discussed import already in
                      progress in conformity with the guidelines. As
                      with many large imports. as the import progresses,
                      more edge cases are being discovered. <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_York/NYS_GIS_SAM_Address_Points_Import"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_York/NYS_GIS_SAM_Address_Points_Import</a>
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                  <div dir="ltr"> 73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin </div>
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                <div> _______________________________________________ <br>
                  Tagging mailing list <br>
                  <a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org"
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                    href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a>
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          Tagging mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
          <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
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Tagging mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a>
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