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<div>Many places with "miraculous water" / "blessed water" do not qualify for<br></div><div>amenity=place_of_worship, and such tagging would be incorrect<span style="" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana"></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 18, 2021, 21:25 by bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">Dear Anne,</span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">You should abstain from using specific
religious terms like "holy" and "paganism".<br> To my honest opinion the existing tagging schemes and
attribution for amenity=place_of_worship combined with
tourist=attraction offer enough flexibility and most of all
neutrality in the religious context to suite your needs.<br> Of course there are numerous wells across the world with either
a religious significance (sometimes the same well is significant
in different religions or to different denominations). Some have
significance for tourism purposes, others might be preferred by
the worshippers, to be accessible only in a more private
context.<br> Please read through the related wiki pages, to my opinion very
detailed and of high quality to address your local specific
needs and offering enough variation for any religious or tourist
related significance. You can extend them to suite your specific
needs, I personally see no need for a new key or value for this
purpose or revert to a proposal if you feel you need broader
confirmation from the community. Do respect neutrality in the
additions or modifications.</span></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">Greetings, Bert Araali</span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana"></span><br></p><div class="">On 18/02/2021 21:31, Anne-Karoline
Distel wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><p>I understand it's a bit of a tricky one. Wishing wells/
fountains mostly used by tourists should not count, because
there is not an established religion behind that thinking of
leaving a coin for good luck. They are all votive offerings
though, no matter if they are rags or coins or whatever else
people leave there (probably masks now, I haven't been to a site
since lockdown).<br></p><p>Good rule of thumb: If it has a saint's name attached, it's a
holy well. Or rather "holy well".<br></p><p>Anne<br></p><div class="">Am 18/02/2021 um 16:04 schrieb Volker
Schmidt:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Interesting idea.<br></div><div>But difficult to define.<br></div><div>There is a wide spectrum from really sacred places, like
chapels with a spring inside to the wells or fountains where
people go with plastic bottles <br></div><div>to collect "good" or "healthy" water.and the wells that
tourists fill with coins (no drinking water there).<br></div><div>I would rather see this somehow under the tourism tent -
pilgrimage is the original form of tourism.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Volker<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><div><br></div><table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de"><tbody><tr><td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noopener noreferrer"><img style="width: 46px; height: 29px; max-width: 100px;" alt="" src="data:image/svg+xml;utf8,<svg version='1.1' viewBox='0 0 512 512' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'><rect width='512' height='512' fill='%23f8f8f8'/><path d='m220 212c0 12.029-9.7597 21.789-21.789 21.789-12.029 0-21.789-9.7597-21.789-21.789s9.7597-21.789 21.789-21.789c12.029 0 21.789 9.7597 21.789 21.789zm116.21 43.578v50.841h-159.79v-21.789l36.315-36.315 18.158 18.158 58.104-58.104zm10.895-79.893h-181.58c-1.9292 0-3.6315 1.7023-3.6315 3.6315v138c0 1.9292 1.7023 3.6315 3.6315 3.6315h181.58c1.9292 0 3.6315-1.7023 3.6315-3.6315v-138c0-1.9292-1.7023-3.6315-3.6315-3.6315zm18.158 3.6315v138c0 9.9867-8.1709 18.158-18.158 18.158h-181.58c-9.9867 0-18.158-8.1709-18.158-18.158v-138c0-9.9867 8.1709-18.158 18.158-18.158h181.58c9.9867 0 18.158 8.1709 18.158 18.158z' fill='%23b4b4b4' stroke-width='.11348'/></svg>" width="46" height="29"></a><br></td><td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:#41424e;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a style="color:#4453ea" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.avast.com</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at
14:42, Anne-Karoline Distel <<a href="mailto:annekadistel@web.de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">annekadistel@web.de</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div>It's me again, full of
ideas.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I propose a tag for holy wells, one of the reasons being
that my local<br></div><div> council wants them mapped and I've been trying to convince
them to use<br></div><div> OSM for a while. Also, because it would entice rural mappers
to get<br></div><div> started and because they play a role in tourism (if you
count pilgrimage<br></div><div> as tourism).<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/holy_well">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/holy_well</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> I'm especially interested in other religions' perspective,
but I don't<br></div><div> know if this phenomenon exists outside Christianity and
Paganism.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Cheers,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Anne<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> Tagging mailing list<br></div><div> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><pre class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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