<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp4e6f64d2yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">On Friday, 19 February 2021, 11:40:16 GMT, Paul Allen <pla16021@gmail.com> wrote:</span><br></div></div></div><div id="ydp56f6f809yahoo_quoted_3844903977" class="ydp56f6f809yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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<div><div id="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402gmail_quote" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><blockquote class="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">[SNIP]</blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>>Definitely nothing new?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>>How not-new is old enough to be historic? Every time I ask that,</div><div>>I get different answers. Because "historic" does not mean old,</div><div>>it means notable or memorable. A memorial plaque installed</div><div>>yesterday to commemorate an event that happened last week</div><div>>is historic=memorial because it commemorates (memorializes)</div><div>>a notable historical event.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>>Some construction work changes underground water flows and a new</div><div>>spring appears miles away, a few hundred yards from the church of</div><div>>St Beeblebrox. It's a miracle! It must be holy. It's a NEW holy</div><div>>well. it makes a mockery of historic=water_well and we'd either</div><div>>have to live with yet more misleading tagging or come up with</div><div>>a new tag for non-historic holy wells. So we might as well</div><div>>start with something other than historic for holy wells to</div><div>>which we can always add historic=yes if appropriate.<br clear="none"></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">+1 for historic=yes, as a possible attribute of a well (or of anything else).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>>"Historic" does not mean the same thing as "historical." "Historic"</div><div>>does not mean "old," use start_date if you want to indicate</div><div>>something is old (it doesn't just indicate that it's old, but</div><div>>how old). "Historic" does not mean "disused," use</div><div>>disused=* or disused:*=* for that.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>>Some wells, whether holy or not, may genuinely be historic</div><div>>in that a notable, memorable historical event happened there</div><div>>because the well was there. For those, add historic=yes.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">+1 for historic=yes (again)</div><div><br></div><div>>-- <br clear="none"></div><div>>Paul</div><div class="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402yqt7202061266" id="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402yqtfd39547"><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div class="ydp4e6f64d2signature"><div style="font-family: new times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div>Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Peter</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br></div></div></div><div><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402yqt7202061266" id="ydp56f6f809yiv3732369402yqtfd73636">
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