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<p><font face="Verdana">I am not getting you Mateusz. Including
terms like "miraculous" or "blessed" in the name to me indicates
it has some kind of significance in a religious context and thus
worshipped in some kind of way. You should give more clear
examples or context before calling such tagging bluntly
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/02/2021 23:32, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div>Many places with "miraculous water" / "blessed water" do not
qualify for<br>
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<div>amenity=place_of_worship, and such tagging would be incorrect<span
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<div>Feb 18, 2021, 21:25 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com">bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com</a>:<br>
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<p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">Dear Anne,</span><br>
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<p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">You should
abstain from using specific religious terms like "holy" and
"paganism".<br>
To my honest opinion the existing tagging schemes and
attribution for amenity=place_of_worship combined with
tourist=attraction offer enough flexibility and most of all
neutrality in the religious context to suite your needs.<br>
Of course there are numerous wells across the world with
either a religious significance (sometimes the same well is
significant in different religions or to different
denominations). Some have significance for tourism purposes,
others might be preferred by the worshippers, to be
accessible only in a more private context.<br>
Please read through the related wiki pages, to my opinion
very detailed and of high quality to address your local
specific needs and offering enough variation for any
religious or tourist related significance. You can extend
them to suite your specific needs, I personally see no need
for a new key or value for this purpose or revert to a
proposal if you feel you need broader confirmation from the
community. Do respect neutrality in the additions or
modifications.</span></p>
<p><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana">Greetings,
Bert Araali</span><br>
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<div class="">On 18/02/2021 21:31, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote:<br>
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<p>I understand it's a bit of a tricky one. Wishing wells/
fountains mostly used by tourists should not count, because
there is not an established religion behind that thinking of
leaving a coin for good luck. They are all votive offerings
though, no matter if they are rags or coins or whatever else
people leave there (probably masks now, I haven't been to a
site since lockdown).<br>
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<p>Good rule of thumb: If it has a saint's name attached, it's
a holy well. Or rather "holy well".<br>
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<p>Anne<br>
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<div class="">Am 18/02/2021 um 16:04 schrieb Volker Schmidt:<br>
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<div>Interesting idea.<br>
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<div>But difficult to define.<br>
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<div>There is a wide spectrum from really sacred places,
like chapels with a spring inside to the wells or
fountains where people go with plastic bottles <br>
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<div>to collect "good" or "healthy" water.and the wells
that tourists fill with coins (no drinking water there).<br>
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<div>I would rather see this somehow under the tourism
tent - pilgrimage is the original form of tourism.<br>
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<div>It's me again, full of ideas.<br>
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<div> I propose a tag for holy wells, one of the reasons
being that my local<br>
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<div> council wants them mapped and I've been trying to
convince them to use<br>
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<div> OSM for a while. Also, because it would entice
rural mappers to get<br>
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<div> started and because they play a role in tourism
(if you count pilgrimage<br>
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<div> I'm especially interested in other religions'
perspective, but I don't<br>
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<div> know if this phenomenon exists outside
Christianity and Paganism.<br>
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<div> Cheers,<br>
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