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<p><font face="Verdana">Struggling for long time with the same issue
Mateusz. It is not clear if the PSV lane count should be counted
in the total lane count or not, if they are deicated.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">It does not cover the case you describe
either, where some lanes are not dedicated to PSV while others
are. I tried many times to clear up this problem f.i. with the
lanes plug-in in JOSM, but that one renders the total of number
defined in lanes=* and simply ignores lanes:psv. I used to test
the lanes tagging in Maps.me in the field, but also that one
doesn't have specific psv lanes implemented or just ignores it.<br>
So I came to the conclusion that lanes:psv is intended for
dedicated psv lanes only, based on the mention on page <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv</a>
where it says it is for reserved psv lanes only.<br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">What seems to work though is to use
psv:lanes instead and define the psv usage of each lane
individually, without providing lanes:psv as a separate count
(dedicated or not).</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">So in your example we would get:</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">lanes=3<br>
psv:lanes=dedicated|yes|yes (notice we drive on the left hand
side, so we tag the lanes in the driving direction from left to
right and reserved psv lanes are mostly located on the "outer"
lane)<br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv</a>.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">That page describes the use of lanes:psv to
include only the specifically "reserved" lanes, like in your
proposal.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Room for improvement: description of
lanes:psv. Use of designated and reserved for the same
"reserved lanes", designated is used as the key value. in the
wiki page on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv</a>.<br>
lanes:psv I think could be deprecated since it is a number which
doesn't describe the actual situation accurately enough and
repeats data as a number which can be much better defined using
psv:lanes. Don't know what impact that is going to have on data
consumers, if there are any that use lanes:psv as a count or for
routing purposes.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Greetings, <br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/02/2021 22:26, Mateusz Konieczny
via Tagging wrote:<br>
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<div>Lets say that oneway road has three lanes, 2 available to all
vehicle<br>
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<div>(including buses) and 1 only for buses.<br>
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<div>How lane count would be tagged?<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>lanes=3<br>
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<div>lanes:psv=1<br>
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<div>?<br>
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<div>Asking as it seem that <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes#Description"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes#Description</a><br>
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<div>"consider to tag the number of lanes for PSV" can be
clarified to<br>
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<div>"consider to tag the number of lanes reserved for PSV" - but
I kept getting confused<br>
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<div>by lane tagging so I want to check to be sure.<br>
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