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    <p><font face="Verdana">I also see no problem in plural shrubs.
        Actually it would be good, to keep it similar like we have
        natural=tree and natural=wood (I know not "trees" but it's a
        word to name a group of plants, same like scrub is, shrubs is to
        name a group). I would prefer shrubs, but also add that we can
        use it on a node.  Not all mappers like to draw areas so for me
        it would be OK for general mapping just to put a node in the
        centre where the group of shrubs is located.  We still remain
        with natural=shrub (singular) to map an individual shrub or
        natural=bush to map an individual bush.<br>
        It's not good practice, I know, but it's better we provide the
        option because some mappers will do it anyway. Agree ?<br>
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        Please to all, don't make a step backwards, I was also
        preferring to bring this under natural=scrub however I
        understood there is a clear need for a separate tag due to the
        human intervention, so please, to help us move on, try to
        understand this and accept the new natural value.  If you are
        not willing to compromise, all due respect for that, you can
        still vote against the proposal or stay neutral, but opening
        that discussion again will not help us and Vincent anymore at
        this stage. Keep in mind we are creating guidelines, not rules. 
        You can always add your own keys or amend a basic proposal once
        accepted. <br>
        In my view we are close but this proposal needs a lot of
        examples to describe how it is suitable to full-fill everyones
        preferences, which can be easily added later on.<br>
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    <p><font face="Verdana">Next we need consensus about the definition
        and we are good to go voting ? Waiting for Vincent's
        modifications.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
    <p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/2021 14:54, Peter Neale via
      Tagging wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I agree.  I am not aware of
            any "rule" / convention that they MUST all be singular.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">landcover (yes, I know it
            is a different key, but it has similarities) uses mostly
            singular values, but also has "mosses", "pebbles".</div>
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          <div> On Thursday, 25 February 2021, 10:27:49 GMT, Paul Allen
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                  <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 07:36, Vincent
                    van Duijnhoven <<a shape="rect"
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                            was also brought to my attention yesterday
                            that all values in the natural key are
                            singular. Shrubs is plural. For consistency,
                            this value should also be singular. <br
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                      <div>Please point me at the place in the wiki
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