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<font face="Verdana">"That is why in Africa we consider access keys
only to be used for legal access restrictions" That's the way
most of us do it also, and that's the way the wiki is written.<br>
I'm not clear on what you do differently in Africa, Is there a
document which describes the methodology? If not, perhaps a
quick informal summary of the differences here would be helpful.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/28/21 6:03 AM, Bert -Araali- Van
Opstal wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">And even adding on that, what about a
non-paved road with so many potholes or turning into a mudpool
during the rainy season that it can't be travelled anymore by
any vehicle. Should I put motor-vehicle=no ? <br>
Even the bollards here get driven over, a bollard made of just
a wooden stem won't stop a truck driver from running over it,
if their is no signage. Again local culture, local perception.
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If there are trees growing next to a road, most of the drivers
go there with a chainsaw, we cut it. Should I use an access
key to indicate that the road might be to narrow for a truck ?<br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">That is why in Africa we consider access
keys only to be used for legal access restrictions, not
physical. For that we use other keys like smoothness,
intermittent, seasonal etc.... . That is why we have in the
largest part of the world a completely different approach of
highway tagging and that is why I would prefer to see it
changed or at least forked (not just a "buried" continental
variant), because what we have now as the global OSM standard
is not usable, is not applicable in the rest, which is "the
most" part of the world.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/02/2021 13:50, Martin
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">sent from a phone
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 28 Feb 2021, at 09:53, Minh Nguyen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us" moz-do-not-send="true"><minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us></a> wrote:
* A particular barrier=bollard could be motorcar=no regardless of signage or legal prohibitions, just based on the width on either side of the bollard.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">this is easy, but what about motorcycle=no? Could depend on the jurisdiction/situation
Cheers Martin
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