<HTML><BODY><div><div>Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:30 AM -06:00 from Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@gmail.com>:</div><div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"> I will only add that to me the saddest thing is not one tag or the</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">other but the lack of ANY<strong> governance</strong> whatsoever which allows us -</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">OpenStreetMap - to get to such a bad situation in the first place.</span></div><div> </div><div><span style="color:#0c64c0;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; float: none; display: inline !important;">So then lets form an editorial board that would take this away from the DWG and put it in the hands of</span></span></div><div><span style="color:#0c64c0;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; float: none; display: inline !important;">a voting body.</span></span></div><div> </div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #0857A6; margin:10px; padding:0 0 0 10px;">Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:30 AM -06:00 from Tomas Straupis <tomasstraupis@gmail.com>:<br> <div id=""><div class="js-helper js-readmsg-msg"><div><div id="style_16150410240768542413_BODY">2021-03-06, št, 16:11 Andy Townsend rašė:<div class="mail-quote-collapse">> Firstly at <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2021-March/060317.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2021-March/060317.html</a> ,<br>> Tomas makes two statements which he says are a corollary of what I've said<br>> but which really aren't. I don't agree with those statements and I doubt anyone<br>> else on the DWG would either. Maybe he was trying to make a joke, but if<br>> so it (a) isn't funny and (b) isn't helpful.</div><br> Sorry, Andy, that was I joke, but until we get into the ministry of<br>silly tags... :-) I'm not going to do the things Brian did because I<br>think that is wrong in general. And I do understand that Andy (or DWG)<br>cannot solve this problem as it's roots are beyond tags.<br><br> I guess Christoph has made a very good point about all this "saga"<br>further decreasing the quality of OSM data. Unfortunately majority<br>will never understand it.<br><br> I will only add that to me the saddest thing is not one tag or the<br>other but the lack of ANY governance whatsoever which allows us -<br>OpenStreetMap - to get to such a bad situation in the first place.<br><br>--<br>Tomas<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="/compose?To=Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a></div></div></div></div></blockquote> <div> </div><div data-signature-widget="container"><div data-signature-widget="content"><div> </div></div></div><div> </div></div></BODY></HTML>