<div dir="auto">Indeed it's common to be able to drive into a cemetery and park in the US. The Fort Gibson National Cemetery has parking within a few meters of where my father in law is interred. There's roughly a break at the start of the 20th century on this, however; older cemeteries are generally fenced and gated so that they're only accessible on foot. More modern ones definitely have some form of driveways internally that you can park along.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">IIRC, Portland has two official bike routes passing through cemeteries on these driveways largely owing to being a path of least resistence in an especially NIMBY-towards-cyclists neighborhood.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 05:04 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mar 25, 2021, 22:22 by <a href="mailto:f@zz.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">f@zz.de</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div><br></div><div>Hi,<br></div><div>i got into a discussion whether cemetery parking belongs within the<br></div><div>landuse=cemetery (Which i think it does) and the mapper changing<br></div><div>that pointed me to tag:landuse=cemetery which does indeed state<br></div><div>that "nearby parking" should not be within that landuse. <br></div></blockquote><div>It may be a cultural issue (I heard that in USA in some cases you<br></div><div>drive car into cemetery itself), and I guess that "nearby parking"<br></div><div>is important part. What about "internal parking"?<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Important part, to anguish of key purists: landuse=cemetery is not strictly a<br></div><div>land use. It is for a cemetery area and would exclude for example<br></div><div>nearby masonry workshops making graves<br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.07506&mlon=19.95719#map=19/50.07506/19.95719" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.07506&mlon=19.95719#map=19/50.07506/19.95719</a><br></div><div>or nearby parkings for sole purpose of cemetery visitors, nearby retail area selling<br></div><div>cemetery materials (flowers, grave candles etc)...<br></div><div><br></div><div>And includes area reserved for burial, not yet used for burial (or maybe it counts as<br></div><div>land use already?)<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>For example see cases where cemetery has nearby parking that <br></div></div><div>is clearly outside cemetery area and I would consider it mapped correctly:<br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.09688&mlon=19.97575#map=19/50.09688/19.97575" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.09688&mlon=19.97575#map=19/50.09688/19.97575</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.09684&mlon=19.97513#map=19/50.09684/19.97513" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.09684&mlon=19.97513#map=19/50.09684/19.97513</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.10190&mlon=19.98343#map=19/50.10190/19.98343" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.10190&mlon=19.98343#map=19/50.10190/19.98343</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Even if its only/primary purpose is to be used by people visiting it.<br></div><div>Including it in a cemetery area would be ridiculous.<br></div><div><div><br></div></div></div><div>But see<br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.41455&mlon=18.11183#map=19/50.41455/18.11183" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.41455&mlon=18.11183#map=19/50.41455/18.11183</a><br></div><div>where cemetery area is less well defined, and parking is more within it and<br></div><div>was mapped as part of it. I would map it differently, but this mapping is also correct.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Or<br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.07372&mlon=19.95645#map=18/50.07372/19.95645" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.07372&mlon=19.95645#map=18/50.07372/19.95645</a><br></div><div>that apparently has parking area within fenced cemetery area. Seems fine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>(I can provide photos for that location if aerial imagery + Google Street View + etc is<br></div><div>insufficient).<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div><br></div><div>This is not mentioned in the German version and i doubt there<br></div><div>is consensus about this. <br></div><div><br></div><div>IMHO this does not make sense when in a landuse=retail the parking lots<br></div><div>are _within_ the landuse, and in case of landuse=cemetery they are not.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So i dispute the last sentence of this change in the wiki article for<br></div><div>landuse=cemetery<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dcemetery&type=revision&diff=1543046&oldid=1514750" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dcemetery&type=revision&diff=1543046&oldid=1514750</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Anyone?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Flo<br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Florian Lohoff <a href="mailto:f@zz.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">f@zz.de</a><br></div><div> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </div>
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