<div dir="ltr"><div>What about community centres run by religious organizations? <br></div><div>Here in Italy we have tens of thousands of "patronato", which are to all effects community centres, but run by the catholic church.</div><div>Are they community centres or clubhouses?<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 11:08, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 31/3/21 11:59 pm, nathan case wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A question has arisen out of Fizzie41’s
proposed military cadet work [1] about how to tag the building
in which the cadets would meet as. But it holds more widely
than that.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Currently, the recommended tagging scheme
[2] for buildings in which a club meets is using the
amenity=community_centre [3] tag, specifically:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">amenity=community_centre<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">community_centre=club_home (meetings<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">community_centre:for=*</p>
<pre>If this happens you will be</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This scheme is currently used in 1,421
cases (having started being in use from January 2016) [4].
However, this recommendation appears to have been via a Wiki
edit, rather than an accepted proposal and is not without its
controversy [5].
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<p class="MsoNormal">My concern with this approach is that a
private building, which is used exclusively by one club only,
and holds no other “community” events cannot possibly be
called a community centre. It is, and should be stored as, a
clubhouse.
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<p>Agreed. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A community centre will often (though not
always) be owned by a local government organisation, e.g.
parish council, or national charity body, e.g. YMCA. It will
host local community events (e.g. town hall sessions), be used
by multiple clubs, and be available for hire for private
functions (e.g. birthday celebrations). Of course, some clubs
do meet in community centres and, in those cases, the building
should obviously be tagged as a community centre.</p>
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Also used by some for yoga, self defense classes, etc. These are
usally run by an organiser/coach for some profit. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts
on this issue and potential options going forward.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is this situation OK as is, or should we
consider amenity=clubhouse or building=clubhouse (both already
exist) as options for buildings in which a single club
operates from? Some other tags in use which may be relevant:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">golf=clubhouse [6]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">building = clubhouse (619 uses) [7]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">building = club_house (196 uses) [8]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">amenity = clubhouse (113 uses) [9]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">amenity = club_house (126 uses) [10]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p>I think that both community_centres and clubhouse are buildings
and should be under the one key of building=*. <br>
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<p>The difference between the two is that one is more adaptable for
multiple purposes, <br>
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<p>while the other is built for and operated by the one club and
caters primarily for the members of that club. <br>
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