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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/04/2021 15:07, Robin Burek wrote:<br>
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<span class="VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b"
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data-language-to-translate-into="de" data-phrase-index="0"><span>So
you can only fall back on the linguistic definition.</span></span>
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data-language-to-translate-into="de" data-phrase-index="1"><span>And
there the clubhouse is a community centre.</span></span></span><br>
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<p>Absolutely not. Most single-use clubhouses would fail the "duck
test" as a community centre.</p>
<p>Conversely, many community centres may have sports clubs (or
other clubs) associated with them, but that's not the point.</p>
<p>I wholehearted agree with what Nathan wrote earlier:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">A community centre is a very specific
term. It has far more requirements to it than simply being the
meeting place of a club (or in your definition a very specific
community). Wikipedia gives a list of example activities which
one normally expects a community centre to hold: <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_centre#Uses_and_activities">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_centre#Uses_and_activities</a></blockquote>
That's why I added the "invalid use of tag" section at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre&oldid=1250245">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre&oldid=1250245</a>
back in 2015, the discussion of which has carried on - see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre</a>
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<p>Back in 2015, I would certainly have supported reinstating the
content of that page as it existed at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre&oldid=1177480">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre&oldid=1177480</a>
. Unfortunately, tag changes to e.g. youth clubs such as
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5124119917/history">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5124119917/history</a> have
corrupted the original use of the tag, so that we don't have a tag
for actual community centres any more. The wiki should reflect
actual usage, and right now that runs the whole gamut of
non-community-centre clubs and organisations (religious and
secular, sport- and hobby-based and other, community-based and
other).</p>
<p>One question still remains though - how do I tag an actual
community centre? "amenity=village_hall" works for a subset of
these, but there are many for which it doesn't.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
<p>(for the avoidance of doubt, written in an entirely personal
capacity)</p>
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