<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp10544d05yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Yes, it is very common , in British English, to refer to an "army base" (US English) as a "Barracks".</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">An individual building, used for the accommodation of troops, would be called a "barrack block".</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">An area of land, including one, or more, barrack blocks, a parade square, garages, stores buildings, sports field, etc. would be "the barracks" e.g Imphal Barracks in York.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A single "barracks" - sorry, but it is considered singular, even though it looks like a plural - can house a unit (a company, squadron, workshop, regiment, battalion... don't start asking about all the different terms for essentially the same size of unit), or the headquarters of a larger formation (division, brigade, etc.)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So, IMHO in OSM you can map a single building (barrack block) as "military=barracks". If you map several of these that stand within a common area, that area SHOULD be "landuse=military". I am a little hesitant about adding the landuse to a single, isolated building, but that would be logical - perhaps include a small strip of land around it, if that is justified? I DO NOT think that we should stack "landuse=military", one inside another by insisting that every "military=barracks" MUST also have a "landuse=military" tag, even if it stands in an area already tagged as "landuse=military".</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp10544d05signature"><div style="font-family:new times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Peter</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">(Retired, after 29 years' service in the British Army)</div><br></div></div></div>
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On Wednesday, 14 April 2021, 13:27:25 BST, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp144e07cbyiv9787921658"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">sent from a phone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On 14 Apr 2021, at 02:24, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Since it has been redefined as "buildings where military personnel live and sleep", it should now only be used on individual, or a group of, buildings, almost invariably found inside a base area. With the current mandatory combination with landuse=military, it means that you have landuse=military + military=barracks nested inside an area of landuse=military + military=base, which is a bit awkward. </div></blockquote><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>it get’s weirder when the name of the base(?) is then Foo Barracks, e.g. the US Kelley Barracks in Stuttgart:</div><div><a shape="rect" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelley_Barracks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" fg_scanned="1">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelley_Barracks</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>These are not just "buildings where military personnel live and sleep" but include the headquarters of US Africom.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>maybe “barracks” is also used for a kind of base in some cases?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Not sure about English, but in German usage the term “Kaserne” (barracks), while literally referring to the sleeping quarters, is used as a generic term for a military base “at home” or maybe at “friends”.</div><div class="ydp144e07cbyiv9787921658yqt1300197231" id="ydp144e07cbyiv9787921658yqtfd74402"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cheers Martin </div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><div class="ydp144e07cbyqt1300197231" id="ydp144e07cbyqtfd67928">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Tagging mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" fg_scanned="1">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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