<div dir="ltr"><div>No, you cannot say the wiki is wrong. You can suggest a new tagging for roundabout centrepieces. <br></div><div>The number of mappers that have used highway=island or traffic_calming=island for this are a very small fraction of roundabout mappers.</div><div>I guess you would need to make a formal proposal for that extension to the tag use.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 19:23, António Madeira <<a href="mailto:antoniomadeira@gmx.com">antoniomadeira@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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That description is wrong and should be corrected. The wiki states
in its main text "A traffic island is a structure separating at
least two lanes of a highway for a short distance."<br>
Which makes sense, since you can have a highway with two ways in the
same direction, split with a traffic island in the middle.<br>
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Regards,<br>
António.<br>
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<div>Às 14:06 de 28/04/2021, Volker Schmidt
escreveu:<br>
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<div>highway=traffic_island has no wiki page and 500 uses in
Taginfo.</div>
<div>traffic_calming=island is not applicable for a roundabout
centerpiece. The wiki page traffic_calming clearly states: "
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<li><tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a>traffic_calming</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:traffic_calming%3Disland" title="Tag:traffic calming=island" target="_blank">island</a></tt></li>
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<div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Trafficcalming-island.jpg" target="_blank"><img alt="Trafficcalming-island.jpg" width="120" height="80"></a></div>
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<dd>An island is a small area that temporarily separates two
different directions of traffic.</dd>
<dt>In a roundabout there are no different directions of
traffic, as it is one-way by definition.<br>
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<dt>If we want to map the way how the centerpiece is
planted, we should use the same tagging as we use for
normal land cover. For grass it should, landcover=grass,
if it's planted with flowers and bushes it becomes a
leisure=garden. <br>
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<dt>If there is a kerb that can be tagged a barrier=kerb.</dt>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 16:38,
Peter Elderson <<a href="mailto:pelderson@gmail.com" target="_blank">pelderson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think the central island has a traffic
function, but not a routing function. The routing function
is in the junction tag of the roundabout way.
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<div>For road-builders the central Island is definitely an
important feature, as are e.g. the splitting Islands,
refuge islands, truck apron (the tilted strips around the
Islands where truck wheels are tolerated). </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Peter Elderson</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op wo 28 apr. 2021 om
16:12 schreef Dave F via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>>:<br>
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<div> I don't see it as part of the highway. The road of a
roundabout doesn't interact with; it goes *around* it.
Routers know they're on a roundabout because of the
junction= tag.<br>
<br>
They're not really designed to be accessible by foot as
per your wiki pages. Most in my locale are municipally
maintained grass so I just mark it with landuse=grass.<br>
<br>
DaveF <br>
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<div>On 27/04/2021 22:32, Allroads wrote:<br>
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<div>Roundabout.</div>
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<div>Is the center_island of a roundabout a type
of a area:highway=traffic_island?</div>
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<div>I think it is.</div>
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<div>What types of traffic_island can be used?</div>
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<div><a title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island</a></div>
<div><a title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island</a></div>
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