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I'm not saying the wiki is wrong, I'm saying its description is
wrong (it doesn't match what is in the wiki).<br>
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Regards,<br>
António.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 18:05 de 28/04/2021, Volker Schmidt
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<div>No, you cannot say the wiki is wrong. You can suggest a new
tagging for roundabout centrepieces. <br>
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<div>The number of mappers that have used highway=island or
traffic_calming=island for this are a very small fraction of
roundabout mappers.</div>
<div>I guess you would need to make a formal proposal for that
extension to the tag use.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 19:23,
António Madeira <<a href="mailto:antoniomadeira@gmx.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">antoniomadeira@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> That description is wrong and should
be corrected. The wiki states in its main text "A traffic
island is a structure separating at least two lanes of a
highway for a short distance."<br>
Which makes sense, since you can have a highway with two
ways in the same direction, split with a traffic island in
the middle.<br>
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Regards,<br>
António.<br>
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<div>Às 14:06 de 28/04/2021, Volker Schmidt escreveu:<br>
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<div>highway=traffic_island has no wiki page and 500
uses in Taginfo.</div>
<div>traffic_calming=island is not applicable for a
roundabout centerpiece. The wiki page traffic_calming
clearly states: "
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<li><tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255)
none repeat scroll 0%
0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a
moz-do-not-send="true">traffic_calming</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:traffic_calming%3Disland"
title="Tag:traffic calming=island"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">island</a></tt></li>
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<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Trafficcalming-island.jpg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><img
alt="Trafficcalming-island.jpg"
moz-do-not-send="true" width="120"
height="80"></a></div>
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<dd>An island is a small area that temporarily
separates two different directions of traffic.</dd>
<dt>In a roundabout there are no different
directions of traffic, as it is one-way by
definition.<br>
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<dt>If we want to map the way how the centerpiece is
planted, we should use the same tagging as we use
for normal land cover. For grass it should,
landcover=grass, if it's planted with flowers and
bushes it becomes a leisure=garden. <br>
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<dt>If there is a kerb that can be tagged a
barrier=kerb.</dt>
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16:38, Peter Elderson <<a
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<div dir="ltr">I think the central island has a
traffic function, but not a routing function. The
routing function is in the junction tag of the
roundabout way.
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<div>For road-builders the central Island is
definitely an important feature, as are e.g. the
splitting Islands, refuge islands, truck apron
(the tilted strips around the Islands where
truck wheels are tolerated). </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Peter Elderson</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op wo 28 apr. 2021
om 16:12 schreef Dave F via Tagging <<a
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<div> I don't see it as part of the highway. The
road of a roundabout doesn't interact with; it
goes *around* it. Routers know they're on a
roundabout because of the junction= tag.<br>
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They're not really designed to be accessible by
foot as per your wiki pages. Most in my locale
are municipally maintained grass so I just mark
it with landuse=grass.<br>
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DaveF <br>
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<div>Roundabout.</div>
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<div>Is the center_island of a roundabout
a type of a area:highway=traffic_island?</div>
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<div>I think it is.</div>
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<div>What types of traffic_island can be
used?</div>
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<div><a
title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_island</a></div>
<div><a
title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge_island</a></div>
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