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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks Robin and Graeme for your input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">> </span>I think responsible is ID..... They have a preset for man_made=courtyard<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ah, it could be. I see it was recently discussed in iD regarding translations:
<a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/7601">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/7601</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Had a play in Overpass & found a couple that were done 2 weeks ago, which seem to be connected with schools in the US, so that may give you a lead?:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/944035199">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/944035199</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/942301926">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/942301926</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">> </span>My opinion -> this should be a multipolygon....<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I agree that it would appear these should be multipolygon relations but could see why the inner polygon could be man_made=courtyard. Even if it is a covered courtyard, I would suggest using covered=yes,
rather than having it part of the main building.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> Also spotted a couple that have been tagged as courtyards although it would appear that they're only simple fenced off areas?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/356269649">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/356269649</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/908917992">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/908917992</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Confusing... I have found some texts where courtyard also is used as a synonym for farm/farmyard.... But this wound fit here also.....<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I don’t think either of those, or using as a farmyard, are correct. However, the tag is undocumented – so it’s not surprising that it’s being used in odd ways.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think I’ll go ahead and create a Wiki page for this tag, using current examples, dictionary definitions, and the proposal as a base.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Nathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Robin Burek <robin.burek@gmx.de>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 1, 2021 7:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> tagging@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] man_made=courtyard tag chronology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 00:37, nathan case <<a href="mailto:nathancase@outlook.com">nathancase@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I’m just wondering what’s the best way to investigate this sudden surge in usage? Can I find out who/where is responsible for it? Note: I’m not at all saying
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<p>I think responsible is ID..... They have a preset for man_made=courtyard<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I really ask - do we need a tagging for this? To make a courtyard visible, there are multipolygons..... Building outline as outer and the courtyard outline as inner.....<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Had a play in Overpass & found a couple that were done 2 weeks ago, which seem to be connected with schools in the US, so that may give you a lead?:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>My opinion -> this should be a multipolygon....<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also spotted a couple that have been tagged as courtyards although it would appear that they're only simple fenced off areas?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Confusing... I have found some texts where courtyard also is used as a synonym for farm/farmyard.... But this wound fit here also.....<o:p></o:p></p>
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