<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Looking at the examples, I think the solid check dams where water is designed to flow over the top can be mapped with the current waterway=weir tag. <div><br></div><div>The slot and slit dams might be categorized as a sub-type of waterway=dam since they are mostly solid but allow a small amount of water to pass through the dam. Many standard dams have gates, spillways or other channels for a small amount of water to pass through the structure. </div><div><br></div><div>However, I agree that the "fin", "rake", "beam" and "frame" structures are not at all like a waterway=dam or =weir, since they are not solid structures and do not normally impede passage of water, rather they are designed to catch debris, rocks and logs which might otherwise be swept downstream during flooding. </div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 2:30 PM Enno Hermann <<a href="mailto:enno.hermann@gmail.com">enno.hermann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/PrtuW627ndkc3NbX7" target="_blank"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 6:03 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Check_dam_on_Miya_River_(Jinzu_River).jpg" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Check_dam_on_Miya_River_(Jinzu_River).jpg</a><br></div><div dir="auto">for me it looks like waterway=weir<br></div><div><br></div><div>"Solid check dams usually have water flowing over only a small part of their width and<br></div><div dir="auto">are designed to handle sudden increases in water flow."<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Are you sure that thing depicted on image is not also a weir?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree that it's not the best example and from this picture alone it could be hard to tell, although the construction is typical for check dams. I managed to find the location and on Google Streetview (<a href="https://goo.gl/maps/PrtuW627ndkc3NbX7" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/maps/PrtuW627ndkc3NbX7</a>) or the Japan GSI seamlessphoto imagery (<a href="https://osm.org/go/7QeF1CmI6" target="_blank">https://osm.org/go/7QeF1CmI6</a>) the water level is clearly different and water seems to be flowing only through the bottom of the structure. Given that, the mountainous terrain and similar structures nearby I would say it is clearly a check dam.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">And "designed to handle sudden increases in water flow." is applicable to<br></div><div dir="auto">any sanely constructed waterway engineering.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>"sudden and significant" might fit better. Often those streams are normally only a trickle or even completely dry but then can see sudden debris flows like this: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rfuoylv34k" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rfuoylv34k</a> This is different from floods on already larger rivers.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Culverts_under_yass_river_walkway_weir.JPG" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Culverts_under_yass_river_walkway_weir.JPG</a><br></div><div dir="auto">on Wikipedia weir page.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grial%C3%ABces_cuecenes.jpg" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grial%C3%ABces_cuecenes.jpg</a> with description<br></div><div dir="auto">"During periods of high river flow, this nineteenth century weir of porphyry stone on <br></div><div dir="auto">a creek in the Alps would have significantly more water flowing over it."<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>An early example of a check dam? ;) I'd say very small structures or simple constructions that can't be clearly identified as a check dam may just be tagged as weirs.</div></div></div>
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