<div dir="auto">This proposal suggests that all power=pole nodes can have two new tags added: utility=power and man_made=utility_pole</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34)">Adding "man_made=utility_pole + utility=power" as synonym of </span><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);color:rgb(32,33,34)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power" title="Key:power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole" title="Tag:power=pole" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">pole</a></tt><span style="font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34)"> is not helpful, I would rather deprecate </span><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);color:rgb(32,33,34)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:utility" title="Key:utility" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">utility</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:utility%3Dpower" title="Tag:utility=power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a></tt><span style="font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34)">and consider it as an unnecessary  duplicate of </span><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);color:rgb(32,33,34)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power" title="Key:power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole" title="Tag:power=pole" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">pole</a></tt><span style="font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,33,34)"> / </span><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);color:rgb(32,33,34)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power" title="Key:power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtower" title="Tag:power=tower" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">tower</a></tt><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><dd style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;overflow:auto;color:rgb(32,33,34)" dir="auto">It's fine to add tags which are not redundant, but in this case <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;font-size:1em;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power" title="Key:power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole" title="Tag:power=pole" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">pole</a></tt> already clearly indentifies the object as a power utility pole, so adding two more tags does not give any additional information.</dd><dd style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;overflow:auto;color:rgb(32,33,34)" dir="auto"><br></dd><dd style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;overflow:auto;color:rgb(32,33,34)">Are you proposing to eventually deprecate <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;font-size:1em;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power" title="Key:power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole" title="Tag:power=pole" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">pole</a></tt> and instead use <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;font-size:1em;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:man_made" title="Key:man made" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">man_made</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dutility_pole" title="Tag:man made=utility pole" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">utility_pole</a></tt> + <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.6;font-size:1em;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,255)"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:utility" title="Key:utility" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">utility</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:utility%3Dpower" title="Tag:utility=power" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)">power</a></tt>? That seems to be the only reason to propose duplicating these tags.</dd></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I asked this on the talk page and you did not really answer my question: obviously this proposal does not deprecate power=pole, but it seems like that might be  your long-term goal</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- Joseph Eisenberg </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:06 PM François Lacombe <<a href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com">fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all</div><div><br></div><div>Discussed proposal about reviewing man_made=utility_pole is now open for voting.</div><div>It will encourage mapping of several utility poles, including telecommunication ones with an already fairly used tag.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_poles_proposal" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_poles_proposal</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance to take time to mark your vote at the bottom of the page, until June 28.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François</div></div>
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