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How would you define leisure=practice_pitch in general? I assume
many OSM pitches are used only for practice/training. For example,
sport+equestrian + leisure=pitch is currently often used for round
pens, lungeing areas and sometimes added to horse_walker's.<br>
- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_pen" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_pen</a><br>
- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longeing" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longeing</a><br>
- <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:animal=horse_walker" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:animal=horse_walker</a><br>
Will these have to be retagged to leisure=practice_pitch?
</blockquote><div>I think sport=equestrian is a borderline case, even leisure=pitch seems strange here. If practice_pitch takes off, maybe it'll be used, but I think these cases would deserve an appropriate subtag and not pitch.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
For what is tennis=wall needed? Woudn't leisure=practice_pitch +
sport=tennis be clear enough? (You can map the building=wall
separately as a detail) It sounds strange as a subcategory of
sport=tennis; tennis=wall_tennis would be more appropriate IMHO</div></blockquote><div>I could see using practice_pitch=tennis_wall, but having
leisure=practice_pitch wouldn't be enough in my opinion, this would create a limit of one type of practice pitch per sport. Speaking about tennis specifically, there might be smaller than regulamentary pitches, or other facilities we can't think of now, so why limit ourselves already? We need to have the type info (wall) somewhere.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Someone looking for places to play tennis will likely search for
"sport = tennis" in general and then find both tag combinations.<br></div></blockquote><div>Sure, but that shouldn't be a reason to avoid adding more features. sport=* is a generic tag linked to everything that deals with that sport, it shouldn't point to a pitch alone.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Perhapy this could be avoided by better using something like:<br>
<br>
practice:sport=tennis + leisure=*<br>
or<br>
practice_only:sport=tennis + leisure=*<br>
<br>
Such a prefix could also be used for all kinds of sports, if it
makes sense.
</div></blockquote><div>Yes, practice is almost unused as a tag (only relevant use is as golf=practice), but even here we'd need subtags to distinguish the different practice pitches, and that's why I think having it as a subtag of the sport in question (e.g. tennis=wall, or even tennis:practice=wall) would be best<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno gio 8 lug 2021 alle ore 09:45 Hufkratzer <<a href="mailto:hufkratzer@gmail.com">hufkratzer@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 07.07.2021 15:13, Michele Galimberti
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"> That sounds good to me. It
could apply to other practice pitches too. Much more
preferable than abusing the sport with sport=practice_tennis
like we have with sport=cricket_nets. <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Asport%3Dcricket_nets" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Asport%3Dcricket_nets</a></blockquote>
<div>Yes, I agree. We have two possibilities now:</div>
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<div> sport=tennis<br>
leisure=pitch <br>
pitch=training_wall </div>
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<div>or</div>
<div><span>
<div> <span>sport=tennis</span> </div>
<div>leisure=practice_pitch<br>
tennis=wall</div>
</span></div>
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<div>I like the second a little more, because we avoid the
problem of people/software assuming that
leisure=pitch+sport=* is a full pitch and because
pitch=training_wall would be used almost exclusively for
tennis (like Pelota, that uses pitch only as it's their
main pitch type).</div>
<div> <span>leisure=practice_pitch</span>
could instead be used in other sports too, and wall would
go under the tennis tag.</div>
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<div>I'd go with that and start preparing the proposal if
everyone agrees<br>
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</span> </div>
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How would you define leisure=practice_pitch in general? I assume
many OSM pitches are used only for practice/training. For example,
sport+equestrian + leisure=pitch is currently often used for round
pens, lungeing areas and sometimes added to horse_walker's.<br>
- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_pen" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_pen</a><br>
- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longeing" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longeing</a><br>
- <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:animal=horse_walker" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:animal=horse_walker</a><br>
Will these have to be retagged to leisure=practice_pitch?<br>
<br>
For what is tennis=wall needed? Woudn't leisure=practice_pitch +
sport=tennis be clear enough? (You can map the building=wall
separately as a detail) It sounds strange as a subcategory of
sport=tennis; tennis=wall_tennis would be more appropriate IMHO.<br>
<br>
Someone looking for places to play tennis will likely search for
"sport = tennis" in general and then find both tag combinations.
Perhapy this could be avoided by better using something like:<br>
<br>
practice:sport=tennis + leisure=*<br>
or<br>
practice_only:sport=tennis + leisure=*<br>
<br>
Such a prefix could also be used for all kinds of sports, if it
makes sense.<br>
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